• Rooty@lemmy.world
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    Planned economies are grossly inefficent, a handful of planners creating chains of production results on an economy that works only on paper.

    Marxism works as a critique of lassiez-faire capitalism, but as a standalone system always results in the creation od totalitarian regimes. A well regulated market economy, with publicly funded infrastructure and services has the best of both worlds.

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      Marxism works as a critique of lassiez-faire capitalism, but as a standalone system always results in the creation od totalitarian regimes.

      Marx never devised any kind of “system” and there has never been a Marxist revolution (if you mean, of the kind Marx predicted would occur). Marx thought revolution would result from the concentration of labour in factories in heavily industrialised countries but so-called Marxist revolutions have only happened in agrarian economies so far.

      It turns out that fascism (which is power protecting itself) is the primary beneficiary of crises of capitalism because they happen when labour is at its weakest.

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      Planned economies are actually very efficient, look inside of Walmart and Amazon, and what you’ll see is a ton of planning, this planning isn’t based on ‘a handful of planners’, but instead based on a fuckton of data, usually collected and analysed via SAP business planning software. These companies are able to respond to trends and price goods in a way that their profits remain high, and both of these companies at least have some of their supply chains under full control for themselves.

      I’m pretty sure we can create this kind of planning and enact control over it for different goals apart from profit, and there are countries where this is already being tried like here

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    The alternative forms of government have done it much faster. I wonder if we will get the balance right eventually. I thought Nordic states had a good thing going but seeing Sweden’s right shift lately I’d guess not.

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    I dunno man, my quality of life is like 10x better than my grandparents’ and 1000x better than maybe 8 generations ago, and I’d argue that’s mostly attributable to liberalised free markets.

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      I would argue that the physical quality of life is obviously much better. But that the mental health of everyone is eroding. Propaganda, lies on both sides of the political spectrum, extremist influences (alex jones R, cody johnson L). People are slammed with stress and depression. With no relief. How much stress has money, politics, and work caused. I don’t have the answer, but I do think that addressing the mental health problem is step 1.

      Side note: If you disagree with a someone and your first instinct is to belittle and insult them for having a difference of opinion, then you are the problem.

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      my quality of life is like 10x better than my grandparents’

      yeah, fuck all those workers, many children, slaving away for pennies, often dying, in mines and factories and dumpsters to provide me with that life. Not to mention the planet itself that we all live on that is literally being destroyed for the benefit of a handful of people.

      I’d argue that’s mostly attributable to liberalised free markets.

      because you’re comfortable enough to ignore reality as long as that keeps that comfy-comfy status quo of yours in place.

      Congratulations, you are being part of the problem.

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        My grandfather had to buy dollars from a arab student(which was illegal), ga to the capital, find a foreigner who will agree to go into the special shop(which was only for party members and foreiners to enter) to by a JVC cassette player.

        Yes, progress!