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“Based on the most recent Statistics Canada data, that’s a wide range anywhere from $52,875 to $141,000.”
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“Her definition of “middle class” is simply having enough money to survive for two weeks without a paycheque. Right now, her family doesn’t meet that threshold. “
TIL I am both upper class and maybe still middle class. That can’t be right.
My household makes more than the threshold, but only misses the definition because we drive junkers that are 10+ years old with no payments. One vehicle payment and I’m not sure what we would need to start cutting. Food?
We mortgaged a lot less for a house than most because of when we bought it too. So anyone doing it now would be in over their head.
Knowing what struggles we have, which obviously aren’t as bad, how in the hell is anyone else making it work?
Being middle class growing up was not having the nicer boat or nicer motorcycle, like the uppity crowd had.
This seems like the system is trying to keep these numbers low, so the people getting hit the hardest can at least say they are not “low class”.
We collectively need to rethink the classes to just “rich” and “not rich”. That’s the only ones that matter anymore in my opinion.
Anyone that can live a stable life without worrying constantly about the cost of everyday items should be middle class.
Any household that can thrive without the need to work is rich.
People have thrown around the term “middle class” to mean “comfortable” or “financially secure” for generations now, but there’s nothing “middle” about that. It makes complete sense that as wages fail to keep up with the cost of living, the “middle” is going to struggle more and more.
This isn’t a problem with the formal definition, but one of the cultural expectations. The fact that those injured by the lie of the cultural expectation aren’t burning down the homes and businesses of the rich is still a small wonder to me.
I can’t fathom how many people are out there stressed to the max over money right now. Knowing how much it stresses me when it’s tight makes me sad it has come to this for everyone.
Not to bring politics into this, but I don’t think any of the current governmental systems or powers are equipped or willing to tackle this.
Same boat, in the middle range, luckily I bought my house before the crazy price, now I would not be able to get a mortgage.
Yeah any household below 100k a year is still working poor. At least in Ontario 200k+ is about the lowest where you can feasible get a mortgage and eventually own your house. I don’t know how different it is elsewhere in Canada though, Ontario is definitely one of the more expensive provinces to live in.
Hmm, how many people are in your household?
While there is no established, traditional definition, I’m pretty comfortable with the one I invented (claiming no originality, but so far not finding it elsewhere):
the intersection of working class and capital class
I think it captures the underlying idea that a middle class person is somewhere between the two real classes (rulers/owners and subjects/workers) in a way that dovetails with democratic ideals: collective self-rule/governance and economic self-determination/independence.
Further explanation:
To fit this definition, you need to be wealthy enough to own real assets (like your home, a small business, a farm, etc.) but you can’t be so wealthy that you (and the rest of your household) don’t need to work (unless you’ve all reached retirement age). It’s still a loose definition – does owning a car count, is a house really yours with a mortgage, etc. and why doesn’t being able to afford renting an opulent apartment count – but that’s because to me it’s not about lifestyle or social status. It’s only partly about how well your needs are met. Power coupons have real influence, but money is still only a social construct – and worse it’s based on power taken from someone else. It can and will be manipulated by those who already have the most of it. But assets and especially land have intrinsic value based on utility that cannot be indirectly manipulated; when the price of land goes up, what’s really happening is the value of money going down.
I think the heart of the matter is, what is the nature of your stake/holdings within your own country? Do you have a form of power and agency that the political machinery must respect but does not revere? The numbers aren’t what matters and would necessarily vary wildly across the nation anyway. What matters is how vulnerable you are to the effects of wealth inequality. That vulnerability is what should be getting highlighted, and I think it captures what was on people’s minds back in the 90s as they talked about the middle class shrinking. It was not just wealth but power concentrating either on you or (far more likely) away from you.
In capitalism, capital is the only real power and politics only a moderating force. So the health of a democracy can be measured by the distribution of power – i.e. the size of the middle class. While you can live a good life in the lower class (which may be inescapable due to such things as being disabled), it’s by the grace of whomever holds power over you or the social systems that a majority (hopefully) dictates shall respect persons rather than property and ability. The lower class has no intrinsic power, so when middle class falls below majority
Below middle class, you are disenfranchised even if you still have a vote, because the economy sees you only as a burden and markets have no natural incentive to consider you. If you are lower class and the system hasn’t the grace to protect your interests and quality of life, that is the system’s failure. Above middle class you are privileged with the capacity to force economic changes others do not want, and on top of having a vote the political system will defer to you wherever you hold the capacity to help or harm – and ignore the voting power of your lesser opponents. That’s to say nothing of your ability to influence lower and even some middle class people to vote your interests instead of their own. If you are upper class and the system hasn’t the fortitude to both constrain and redistribute your power, that is the systemic failure that most erodes middle class power. Once middle class no longer holds the majority of power, capitalism spirals into “late stage” and steadily grows the lower class while undermining their supports.
Middle class is where fair equity lies, by virtue of resilience against the abuses of wealth inequality. And yet though it should be as big as possible, middle class is the only one that can definitely be entirely empty.
My frustration is that the “class” in “middle class” as they are using the phrase is not even a member of the same set of classes as the “working” and “capital class” you are describing. It is a member of the set that includes “lower” and “upper class” that describe social status, and doesn’t say anything about control of the means of production. It reflects a social pecking order and pretends there is no real underlying hard power dynamic. Their “middle class” has none of the political implications of Marxist theory. American mythology says these classes are fluid and people move between them through effort or lack of sufficient character, and doesn’t have anything insightful to say about the nature of capital.
It’s frustrating because whether intentional or not, it serves to confound understanding and discussion of social dynamics in terms of capital and labour.
Fair point. It also highlights why I consistently will use any other words than upper and lower (though I don’t think I’ve consciously acknowledged or analyzed that before). I never really had a reaction to middle because it is largely defined in terms of relationship to those between which it sits anyway. But upper and lower carry so little information about the power dynamic as to be deliberately vague.
And while I don’t think “class” as a designation of social status is really meant to imply no hierarchy of power, it certainly does downplay and obscure the underlying mechanism. I think the reason I like keeping it is that it ties the social hierarchies people recognize (and with “capital” the economic system they at least acknowledge) to the actual mechanisms giving one control over the other.
I don’t think it is very meaningful to speak of a middle class between labour and capital. These are people who control what you might call a subsistence level of their own means of production. They can be wiped out at the whim of the ruling class. It’s a useful lie for the ruling class, and since no one likes to think of themselves as being in the “bottom class,” labour are eager to repeat the lie to themselves that they are above that.
