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Firefox outperforms Chrome in speed for the first time according to a Speedometer assessment::undefined

  • mysoulishome@lemmy.worldEnglish
    411·
    2 years ago

    I’ve loved Chrome (on windows) for many years but at this point when you open task manager it’s practically using up more resources than the operating system. Because it is. It’s essentially like running a second operating system…

    • 3laws@lemmy.worldEnglish
      31·
      2 years ago

      Great idea, Google should do that and call it like… Chrome O-- ChromOS, yeah that’s it.

    • whatsarefoogee@lemmy.worldEnglish
      85·
      2 years ago

      There is this misconception of “using a lot of ram = bad”, but memory is not like cpu or gpu cycles.

      Unused memory is wasted memory. Chrome will use available memory to improve responsiveness. Primarily the memory use comes from keeping all open tabs in memory, so they are in the same state as you left them.

      When the system runs low on ram, chrome will start discarding old tabs and giving back memory to other processes. Firefox does the same thing.

      Also windows task manager is very inconsistent when it comes to memory usage. Right now it’s telling me chromium is using 1.4gb for 47 tabs. And memory usage is a lot more complicated anyway.

      • mysoulishome@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 years ago

        Hmm…interesting. I didn’t know Chrome was smart enough to use less ram if the system is taxed. Figured it just always used a shit ton…which sucks if you’re editing videos or something and need to open a browser or something.

        • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          2 years ago

          That’s because it isn’t as smart as it sounds. Like with everything in programming there’s a tradeoff being made. This behavior runs the risk of making the computer unresponsive while the garbage collector and the scheduler run after each other trying to clean house. “Unused memory is wasted memory” is kind of a fallacy. Overextending and requesting the OS for more memory than is available will always hurt performance. Ram operations aren’t free, however much software engineers like to pretend they are. Neither are scheduling tasks. They cost time and responsiveness and can add up fast.

          One of the immediate consequences, for example, is that if the users wants to interact with one of the discarded tabs, now the browser has to re-download the page (internet IO is insanely slow compared to disk operations), reload it to memory from disk cache which can also be slow—specially if the disk is busy with other IO—discard other older tabs to make room (compounding the problem), be slapped in the wrist because the OS says “No, you can’t have DaVinci’s RAM!” scramble for some more ram from some other idle task, reestablish the page state which might’ve been lost. Etc. it becomes messy fast, and now the user is frustrated that “I was reading this page a minute ago, why is it taking so long to load again, is my OS frozen? Damn I lost the forms I had partially filled?” So no, ballooning memory until it’s all used up is not inherently always a good strategy. Nevermind that Chrome (and FF as well) have been found to have severe memory leaks that come and go.

    • pavlov@lemmy.worldEnglish
      151·
      2 years ago

      From the same user too… This account just spams articles to this community and never comments. Looks like an old reddit-style karma farmer

  • zxo@sopuli.xyzEnglish
    21·
    2 years ago

    More reasons to keep using Firefox just keep on coming up like excellent extensions, in-browser PDF editor, and now more speed. I switched to Firefox 2 years ago with uBO and I don’t think I’d ever switch back to Chrome.

    • zxo@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      3·
      2 years ago

      Same, whenever I tried and use Chrome with another application running, it always slowed down my computer an insane amount. Firefox doesn’t do that, I can actually use multiple programs on my machine with Firefox open.

  • Suavevillain@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14·
    2 years ago

    I love firefox. I love the freedom you have with the browser. I got vertical tabs and a good theme I’m happy.

  • Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    2 years ago

    On low end PCs, Firefox always outspend chrome, at least for me. I remember trying to play happy wheels on my think pad laptop back in the day and I would get low fps on chrome but never on Firefox. That experience is what made me switch to the superior browser.

  • fne8w2ah@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    2 years ago

    Not surprising as Chrome has been getting more bloated all along. Then again, I personally use Vivaldi as Firefox doesn’t have a built-in translator tool.

    • Natal@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      2 years ago

      Translator here. Beware of translation tools. It’s fine for personal use and basic understanding but it’s not up to the task for the translation of complex stuff or technical stuff. It’s good at creating text that looks legit but can sometimes contain critical errors.

      I once worked on a medical device and used machine translation to test it. The text was fine but some numbers were changed. This is a huge error.

      • ahal@lemmy.caEnglish
        2·
        2 years ago

        Built-in local translations are coming soon! Already available in nightly.

  • tun@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    2 years ago

    Had been using Firefox before I had to move away due to persistent crashing of Firefox and Surfshark VPN extension not working.

    I have been using Edge and I will now try using Firefox again.

    Do we have these feature (or extensions) I have been using in Edge?

    • vertical tab
    • tab group
  • alxhghs@lemmy.worldEnglish
    35·
    2 years ago

    Everyone on Lemmy loves Firefox. Meanwhile I haven’t seen anyone talk about how good Arc is (in spite of being another chromium browser)