Elon is always obsessed with WeChat’s model. (For those who don’t know about WeChat, it is basically the name of the ‘Everything app’.)

Everything in one single point is pretty convenient but has led to a bunch of risks…

Leave a risk that you know in the comment.

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    Elon is right to understand that the data of a successful everything app (which can only happen by monopoly) will give him vast power in tech. However, after failing to implement one aspect of it in an established market and after removing most talent from Twitter, how will anyone keep falling for his techno-Ponzi scheme?

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      Look how many people joined Threads? I guess still falling for his techno-Pozi scheme, plus there is no need for people to download an new app.

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        While I don’t disagree, keep in mind that every instagram user already has a threads profile, even without access. As far as I know I do have a threads account but I’m from europe and last time I checked I cannot access threads.

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    Yeah, uhh we had that in the 1990s and it sucked:

    Why do one thing poorly when you can do a whole bunch of different things even worse.

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    Lol, dude can’t even run something like Twitter successfully, let alone an “everything” app. Not a chance in hell I would use it.

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      I was wondering if he would hire someone from China who previously runs “everything” app like Wechat. People should definatly look for alternatives

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    Wechat is so creepy. I mean you could just get caught in some misunderstanding of being labeled as a dissident and get cut off from basically all communications.

    And even if you are just an innocent civilian, all it takes is one bad hack and now criminals have the data of 1 Billion people.

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      Well perhaps it is creepy but in China it is massively convenient. Nobody uses cash or credit cards except foreigners. Everyone connects socially through it. Yes the authoritarian government is collecting data, how that is creepier than our distributed techno-authoritarian data collection is an ideological mystification.

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        Yes the authoritarian government is collecting data, how that is creepier than our distributed techno-authoritarian data collection is an ideological mystification.

        Because one of those will put you in jail and have you executed and the other one just tries to sell you stuff

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    Convenience and marketing will always win at the end. We’re heading that way anyway. People use Apple Pay and Google pay and don’t think for a second what it means. Other forms of ID are going that way too. People want ecosystems without having to lift a finger. Just let big brother take care of everything.

    What, you want to talk privately? Use cash? What do you have to hide?

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      On the other hand, Google/Apple Pay are both pretty great products that replace a horrendous legacy payments system. Recall that for like 40 years the most innovative consumer payment system looked like this. And it was essentially a duopoly as well (Visa/Mastercard).

      At the end of the day, cash is still a thing as well.

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        Well, some countries indeed still commonly use payment systems from 50 years ago. That’s pretty bizarre. I remember hearing about PayPal 20 years ago, how revolutionary it is, and I didn’t quite get what the big deal is. That’s because all around Europe we had secure online payments (secure against theft and such, not against the bank snooping) since the late 90’s, and chipped cards even earlier.

        But anyway yea… In person, cash is king. Let’s keep it alive. Some countries are planning to phase out cash, and that really is only because we’re letting it happen due to our lazyness.

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      I can’t talk about google, but I do recall at launch that increased provacy was a widely touted feature of apple pay. If you’re using a credit card, all of your purchases are tracked, and your credit card provider is able to mine and sell all of that data.

      In addition, the merchant can do the same if you use a credit card. With apple pay, your phone anonymizes the number by only sending the merchant an authorization. In addition, apple does not store your transaction info.

      If I recall correctly, one of the reasons walmart originally failed to implement apple pay at their terminals was their loss of the ability to track customer purchases. They tried implementing some janky thing with qr codes.

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        Increased privacy in language of these corporations means “the only people who can access all of your data is us, our 50000 partner companies and every their partner company, and half of the governments on this planet that are currently touted as friendly. But nobody else, trust us bro”.

        I know banks are shit, but well I have 4 bank cards from 4 banks from 4 countries, and for now, that shit isn’t pooled yet.

        Plus I can still use cash, and even leave my phone at home if I wanna buy… Something… Without it being tracked.

        The problem of merchants tracking or stealing your card data is mainly in certain countries using banking systems that are 30 years out of date.

        Besides, people keep flocking to using all the store chains’ apps and reward cards and whatnot, using their real names and data, so enhanced privacy in that regard is moot if people don’t care in the first place.

        I also don’t recall any talks about giving banks nonstop access to all our IDs and car keys and other stuff that’s slowly creeping into phones, or rather into the hands of the handful big brother entities.

        But the payment systems are just one thing that came to mind, it’s not the only problem with these ideas.

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    He’s a decade late on that. I don’t see people wanting one app having that much of their information being constantly collected in the background. Then again, millions of people agreed to Threads’ data harvesting so…

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      Most of the are celebrities, they make money from giving up their privacy right.

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        I imagine most celebrities have primary accounts and people who manage them or at a minimum two phones for that reason so they are only giving up what they want

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    I don’t trust Musk with anything, let alone everything.

    As soon as a company offers ‘ease of use’ for anything, it’ll try to get everything it can get their hands on and use it to their own advantage.

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    If an application has tracking and censorship software that is tied to a country’s government, then chances are I’m not gonna use that app, especially if China’s government is involved. This is why I hate WeChat.

    Besides, an “everything app” basically just defeats the purpose of having an app icon collection on your home screen. I like how colorful it looks, and I don’t want that to be taken away.

    We’re just getting further and further into dystopia at this point.

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    Shit, I deleted my Twitter account when Musk bought the company. I’m definitely not going to create another one to use X.

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    Variety is the spice of life.

    I wouldn’t call this shit convenient when you get trapped in some shit search algorithm, and end up with shit all for alternatives.