A big concern of mine is people’s feelings towards the Russo-Ukrainian War coloring their feelings towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Russo-Ukrainian has two clear sides in it, Russo, and Ukrainian. It’s a pretty simple war.
The situation in Gaza has, for starters, four sides in it. The IDF/current Israeli government, HAMAS army, the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people. None of these four sides is really on the same side as any of the other three.
There’s actually dozens more if we really start digging… It’s just … welcome to the Middle East. The Israeli people aren’t a single faction for starters, that’s fucking racist as fuck. They’re a democracy with different parties that have different platforms. We elected Trump, they elected Netanyahu. Shit happens. Palestinian civilians aren’t a monolith either, also racist as fuck. Saudis, Egyptians, Qatari, Turkish, Iranian governments, there’s just so many interests, all out for themselves, mostly all on their own side, nobody else’s. Sunnis, Shias, Christians, Jews, and that’s just major categories. Each has its own sub-factions. Terrorist factions are active in the region. Humanitarian agencies are active in the region. Russia is active in the region. China is active in the region. USA? Of fucking course we’re active in the region, these aircraft carriers aren’t just for show. Who’s side are we on again, I don’t remember. I know who’s sides Biden is on, but what about us? Have we figured it out yet?
Russo-Ukrainian, though? Two. Russia + allies. Ukraine + allies. Or you don’t care, hope you’re enjoying the cheap oil India. Simple. Easy.
Not the grandaddy of all clusterfucks on Earth for the past 50 years though. Worse clusterfuck than the most imaginative horror writer has ever conjured. The most extreme fiction does not get even half this bad. If it did, everyone who read it would fucking hate it and it’d vanish into obscurity.
It bothers me more than it should that people think the fucking Israel Palestine conflict is somehow even remotely simple. This shit goes back thousands of years, it didn’t start in 1947 no matter how much the British fucked up and made everything worse.
These morons will proclaim that this is a genocide in one sentence, and shout death to Israel in the next.
If you truly care about genocides it shouldn’t be too difficult to see the problem here.
It makes me almost miss a few weeks ago when I was being called an antisemite any time I wrote anything critical of Israel online. These days I apparently don’t care enough because I don’t believe in answering one genocide with another one.
That said, the Israelis did repeatedly vote for their genocidal leaders. Anything they’ve thought about the people of Germany throughout the decades should be coming right back at them.
I agree.
A big concern of mine is people’s feelings towards the Russo-Ukrainian War coloring their feelings towards the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Russo-Ukrainian has two clear sides in it, Russo, and Ukrainian. It’s a pretty simple war.
The situation in Gaza has, for starters, four sides in it. The IDF/current Israeli government, HAMAS army, the Palestinian people, and the Israeli people. None of these four sides is really on the same side as any of the other three.
There’s actually dozens more if we really start digging… It’s just … welcome to the Middle East. The Israeli people aren’t a single faction for starters, that’s fucking racist as fuck. They’re a democracy with different parties that have different platforms. We elected Trump, they elected Netanyahu. Shit happens. Palestinian civilians aren’t a monolith either, also racist as fuck. Saudis, Egyptians, Qatari, Turkish, Iranian governments, there’s just so many interests, all out for themselves, mostly all on their own side, nobody else’s. Sunnis, Shias, Christians, Jews, and that’s just major categories. Each has its own sub-factions. Terrorist factions are active in the region. Humanitarian agencies are active in the region. Russia is active in the region. China is active in the region. USA? Of fucking course we’re active in the region, these aircraft carriers aren’t just for show. Who’s side are we on again, I don’t remember. I know who’s sides Biden is on, but what about us? Have we figured it out yet?
Russo-Ukrainian, though? Two. Russia + allies. Ukraine + allies. Or you don’t care, hope you’re enjoying the cheap oil India. Simple. Easy.
Not the grandaddy of all clusterfucks on Earth for the past 50 years though. Worse clusterfuck than the most imaginative horror writer has ever conjured. The most extreme fiction does not get even half this bad. If it did, everyone who read it would fucking hate it and it’d vanish into obscurity.
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edit to fix a wrong number
Lets help you a bit.
You staying home governed by the Othmans.
UK appears with their navy and take over.
New people come in to the land an UK build them new homes, still some what okay.
The UK take villagers guns.
The new people have an organization called Irgun that start terrorizing people.
The Irgun bomb the hotels and areas where UK officials staying. UK consoder them terrorist group but do nothing.
These miltant new comer start killing people in villages.
New country anounce with no defined border.
Some people start fighting back this new government.
Labeled anti-semtisim, UK and US gave new governmentore money more gun, villagers lose.
Arab countries come in, USA help new government and they also lose.
More villgers died and keep dying.
More kids died and keep dying.
More olive trees get taken down and people lose their farms and lands.
Yes, it is very clear two sided issues if you see it. It is not Jew vs Muslims, or Jew vs Arab, or Undemocratic vs Democratic, or Human vs Animal.
It is two sided, a colonization supported by the USA Imperialist and motivated by greed power and money vs indigenous people of the land.
No, this whole thing you just provided, is only a small part of the story. The parts you like.
Speak of Arab crimes too. Can you not?
It bothers me more than it should that people think the fucking Israel Palestine conflict is somehow even remotely simple. This shit goes back thousands of years, it didn’t start in 1947 no matter how much the British fucked up and made everything worse.
These morons will proclaim that this is a genocide in one sentence, and shout death to Israel in the next.
If you truly care about genocides it shouldn’t be too difficult to see the problem here.
It makes me almost miss a few weeks ago when I was being called an antisemite any time I wrote anything critical of Israel online. These days I apparently don’t care enough because I don’t believe in answering one genocide with another one.
That said, the Israelis did repeatedly vote for their genocidal leaders. Anything they’ve thought about the people of Germany throughout the decades should be coming right back at them.