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Reddit beats film industry, won’t have to identify users who admitted torrenting::Court quashes subpoena for names of users who talked torrenting in 2011 thread.
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I’ve never torrented anything, not even once. I always pay for things legitimately…no matter how hard it is to keep track of everything you’re paying for or how expensive it gets to pay the same movies again and again when the billion dollar corporations randomly decide I don’t own something I paid for all of a sudden. I never pirate anything.
You should only use good VPNs that are lying about their no-logs policies like Nord, Express, Private internet access and surfshark. Never TorGuard or Mullvad. TorGuard and Mullvad actually had to prove in court that they don’t record their users. So they’re bad and immoral for not being cucks for the establishment.
Definitely don’t get torguard’s proxy service to go with torguard. And definitely don’t use torguard’s proxy service inside of your torrenting client.
Like I said I’ve never pirated anything in my entire life and I never will.
That’s a great idea to have these comments for the posterity.
To my lawyer in the future :“Everything I could have wrote in reddit about pirating was a lie to get upvotes. Don’t take any of it seriously.”
Back in the day, our collective friend SWIM took the rap for everything. Nobody ever did anything illegal, SWIM did.
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Everything I ever wrote about me pirating anything was also a lie to get upvotes! A higher Karma score on reddit means a higher standing. Which is why I always lied about having pirated things.
Now here comes the truth. I’ve never pirated anything, that would be wrong and immoral!
Let the logs state that I declare I have never been a pirate a day in my life, I don’t own a boat nor do I know what torrenting is
Torrenting? Like a torrent of hellfire?! Which is where you’ll go if you pirate anything made by a multi-hundred-billion dollar corporation?
How are the executives at AT&T, Comcast, Disney and Viacom supposed to pay for their diamond-dusted lambos if we pirate things?!
Did you know that AT&T bought time warner? How is AT&T supposed to pay off that purchase if a tiny percentage of their products are pirated?!
I only ever claimed I pirated things to fit in…peer pressure! LOOK IT UP!
Everything that I’ve written on both Reddit in the past and on here is only done in Minecraft.
Enjoyed the post. Though PIA has proven it in court twice.
Yes, but PIA has been bought out by a different company since then.
I definitely should never use Torguard or Mullvad. These horrible VPN’s will never protect me because I definitely don’t pirate.
What’s your view on Hotspot Shield?
HOTSPOT SHIELD IS GREAT! THEY CUCK TO THE DMCA!
Nothing on Reddit can be proved to have come from a “user”, and it’s been that way since the “Great Spezzing of 2016”, where ‘spez’ admitted to falsification and alteration of ‘user’ content.
I mean even IRL, people talk so much crap who knows what’s actually true. Imagine if we locked up everyone for what they say. The “film industry” is insulting for even trying to push people into guilt by nothing more than what they type on a website.
Film industry should do something about the sex pests in it
Also do sonething about all their writers and actors being on strike.
Some people in the UK have been locked up for making offensive jokes.
I’m in favor of free speech for everyone, even the shitty right-wingers I hate. The solution to bad speech is good speech, not censorship. Not corporate censorship, not government censorship, not corporate censorship on the order of government censorship.
I think that’s different. You’re held accountable to what you say and yelling bomb on a plane should subject you to a lengthy trial. That’s not the world I’m talking about.
What I’m talking about is getting online and saying “man I just killed like 3 people lol” and being arrested for it. Without proof 3 people even were killed. Is it cool to say such things? No. Could someone be punished for it? Sure. But that’s not the same as being arrested for murder.
I want a world where facts are still king and despite it all, tangible evidence exists of your actions.
There’s a difference between causing a panic like that and sending mean tweets or telling an offensive joke
One of my posts was suddenly labeled as having been posted by someone else.
In the article, not one comment mentioned “piracy”. They only mention “torrenting” which is not illegal and has absolutely nothing to do with these movie companies. They are grasping at straws here
While I do not think they were in the right to have the users “unmasked”, my understanding is that the users in question were talking about how the Austin internet provider, Grande, was good for torrenting, so the attempt to unmask the users wasn’t meant to get the users in trouble but to show that Grande benefitted financially from a lax policy towards pirating, so them not mentioning piracy in their comments wasn’t necessarily the end of the conversation, if they were willing to say now that it was in reference to piracy. I do think it sounds like grasping at straws, but I imagine the potential value they were hoping to get from Grande was worth that grasping to them
God I hate rooting for Reddit.
Spez may still be a corporate sellout but at least in this instance he did the right thing, probably because he determined ratting out users who pirated wouldn’t make him money
I’ll acknowledge he did the right thing here, but I won’t be happy about it.
I’m sure that this was his legal team that reacted and fought back. He must have a top legal representation, they don’t sleep.
But the API stuff, that’s full him, that’s his idea - fuck “I’m pretty sure, I’m a great leader” spez
He didn’t do it for you, he didn’t do it for us. He did it for himself.
If news got out that Reddit violated anonymity, the site would be dead before the end of the week. This was a move to protect his shareholders, nothing more.
Could you elaborate on your response, as well as what the link in the comment you’re replying to is referencing.
I know what ISOs are, I’m just wondering what the original comment is trying to tell us about and what you’re replying about. Thanks.
Rooting for as in cheering them on.
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That makes sense. I thought they thought I was talking about rooting like rooting a phone.
In Australia, rooting means fucking.
Lol
Talking about torrenting… thats not even illegal. Lol.
And its certainly not proof of anyone then actually breaking the law.
Shows how much people understand of the law when they think using Bitorrent is illegal lol
Yeah I torrent a lot of files like Linux ISOs
It’s so much easier and faster than using some mirror
I can download from mirrors at the same speeds as torrents. The trick is to have a terrible internet subscription that’s easily saturated by either of them.
Dial up modem ftw
Depends on the mirror though some mirrors are really slow
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The special thing is breaking things up, but I don’t think its primary attraction is the ability to resume faster. I would say the prime attraction is that you can resume at all. If, for whatever reason, your connection gets interrupted while downloading something off of, say, gofile or whatever, you’re probably gonna have to restart that download, which is clearly not the case with bittorrent. Or if the content is removed from gofile (or whatever), you’re shit out of luck. Taking something out of a bittorent network is significantly more difficult.
Establishing connection to one big provider is usually faster than negotiating with a bunch of peers, though. At least in my experience, torrents take quite a bit more to start than “regular” downloads because there’s more work to be done before the work can begin. And unless it’s a very popular file that’s being served by many different peers at once, a single big provider can also be more available. With torrents you’re often dealing with regular people, who don’t have their computers on 24/7 and very often have piss poor upload speeds. If it’s a file that isn’t being served by many people, it might be very slow and difficult to get.
you are not wrong, every torrent is like that. Torrents are also cool because you spread the (up)load from one to many, efficiency!
You’re apt get some attention from the authorities.
use qbittorrent instead
Spez will turn over the names if Fidelity tells him to.
Serious question: Is admitting that you did something illegal in a conversation enough to be convicted of a crime? For example, if I say “I bought a small amount of weed from another kid at school and smoked it last year”, is my statement alone enough to convict me of a crime? To clarify, they don’t know a date, they don’t know a place, they don’t know who I bought it from, they don’t know how much I bought, or how much I smoked. They really don’t even know if it actually happened (sometimes people say things happened that didn’t actually happen, gasp).
No. You could claim to have murdered someone, and they may detain you for this for some time, but without evidence of a crime I don’t think they can charge you and definitely can’t convict you.
Jesus, your reply reminds me of an old Reddit/4chan post (can’t remember which, probably 4Chan) I read about on Reddit years ago about a guy who admitted to killing his wife. He posted images and described how he did it and where. I believe he ended up getting arrested the next day. There were people who were in the hometown it happened at, posting news articles and links to videos where they had seen it on the news.
And you just reminded me of the Netflix show “don’t @#$& with cats”
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This is most likely civil law, not criminal. Criminal copyright infringement is harder to prove and generally has to be on a larger scale and for profit, depending on laws in your country.
Is admitting to breaking a license agreement enough for a conviction if you say exactly which license, then probably, depending on circumstances and specific local laws. Is it enough if you just say you did it, no. The licenser needs to at least prove they were the ones you “harmed” or they have no standing to sue. But if they already have logs from your ISP, then it might still be useful evidence.
You always need corroborating evidence to convict based solely on a confession. Does not have to be much, but uiu need some extra fact tying the person to the crime.
Well they can get your IP and spy on you so they can probably grab the where. Even the house hold you live in. Although they don’t even need your IP these days.all these capitalists are selling your information to everyone on a silver platter. So they already know exactly who you are. That part wasn’t the hard part.
Maybe if they have a list of buyer suspects they can guess who is the seller in that region . As far as how much you bought, or how much you smoked, it really doesn’t matter. If it’s illegal, any amount is considered illegal.
If you do lie it’s a really dumb lie that got you watched now. it’s also common that if someone guilty does something stupid like admit to something, they quickly say they were lying.
So no, you’re not in the clear.
They don’t have names, so Im not sure what they expect.
It’s possible to have an email address associated with your Reddit account which might provide names.
Rare Reddit W
At least they have doxxed themselves:
The film companies seeking Reddit users’ identities include After II Movie LLC, Bodyguard Productions, Hitman 2 Productions, Millennium Funding, Nikola Productions, Rambo V Productions, and Dallas Buyers Club LLC.
They were stupid fucking subpoenas to begin with, I’m not surprised.
ars technica ftw
