Are there any private email services

  • Platform27@lemmy.mlEnglish
    9·
    2 years ago

    Tutanota and Proton are often recommended services. I personally prefer Tutanota, and their encryption. Though, Proton has a nice suite of services, that is worth looking into. Namely their VPN and Drive…

    • WhyIDie@lemmy.ml
      2·
      2 years ago

      what caused me to lean more towards tuta was their encryption also encrypts the email subject line, and not just the body. I read PGP doesn’t allow for that

      • Platform27@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        2 years ago

        Tutanota also encrypts email folder and labels names. Last time I checked, Proton does not.

        • WhyIDie@lemmy.ml
          1·
          2 years ago

          I know contacts are encrypted, but I wasn’t aware tuta implemented email labels yet, and all that came up from the search was a post from the company on reddit 6 months ago stating it was planned for the future, at https://web.archive.org/web/20230114104535/https://old.reddit.com/r/tutanota/comments/10aumyg/question_on_features_in_provided/ .

          And encrypted folder names sounds believable, but I can’t find a link definitely stating encryption for that, specifically. If you could shoot me a link about it, I’d love to know it’s true before I start stating that to others. Don’t get me wrong, I really like how privacy-focused tuta is, but I jumped into a paid account knowing their frontend functionality is pretty barebones; something I was fine with supporting while they built it up, since the backend privacy focus and it being open source were the main selling points to me.

          • Platform27@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            2 years ago

            Yes, that’s my bad, with Labels. I never really use them, and wrote it without thinking. I do not have a source for my folder claim. I was told this several years ago, by support, when I was enquiring about their service, for business use. It was one of my many questions. While the end user seems their folder name, Tutanota sees a random identifier.

  • thatsnothowyoudoit@lemmy.ca
    7·
    2 years ago

    The only way to ensure privacy is something like PGP. Encrypt before you send. Heck you could even encrypt before you put the contents into a message body.

    With self hosted, the messages themselves aren’t encrypted at rest and they are clear text between hops even if those hops support TLS in transit.

    Ultimately the right answer for you will hinge on what your definition and level of privacy is.

  • PropaGandalf@lemmy.world
    5·
    2 years ago

    I went with tutanota and I’m liking it so far. However I’m fully aware that email not intended for secure infirmation exchange at all.

    • kostel_thecreed@lemmy.ca
      2·
      2 years ago

      Weird. Support was top tier when I had issues. I also own a business account for 30-35 people, and the issues we get are easily resolved by Tutanota. You most likely got a bad rep.

  • FlappyBubble@lemmy.ml
    3·
    2 years ago

    What exactly do you mean by private with regards to email? What is the problem you’re trying to solve.?

      • InfiniteStruggle@sh.itjust.works
        0·
        2 years ago

        Hey man, not cool. Atleast mention why this dude is wrong instead of just mocking them. Now I feel you think delta chat is a shit option, but I don’t know why. That’s not how communication is supposed to work.

        Be better, if only to avoid people from turning away from federated social media.