• Random Dent@lemmy.ml
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    100% against.

    People don’t belong to the government, and shouldn’t be forced into doing any sort of job, especially one where they could be killed or traumatized for life.

    If the people think their country is worth fighting for and a threat is legitimate, they should choose to defend it if the system is working properly.

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    No, because in all times the elites don’t have to fight, while the plebs must die for [insert abstract concept].

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    1 year ago

    The entire idea of fighting “for your country” is ridiculous to me. It’s not my country.

    Almost the entire human race has no influence on the events that occur at all.

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        This is how they keep humanity not moving forward. By making us focus on our differences instead of our similarities. An eternal conflict that never ends, preventing our species from focusing on other things than war with itself.

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      It’s not my country.

      Yep… it’s always “our country” this and “our country” that when they need you to play cannon fodder - and when it’s all over, it just goes straight back to being their country. No different than rich people telling us how we’re “all in this together” during COVID.

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        It’s cute how they tell everyone we can just go vote to have a lot of influence on things too. :)

        As if any of us has any influence on what’s going on whatsoever.

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      Everyone I know thinks I’m a weirdo because I’m not patriotic to my country. The way I see it, I was born here by chance and so I don’t particularly love my country more than any other, except that it’s more familiar I guess.

      I’ll happily through throw as much shade at my own country as I will any other.

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        Exactly, we get randomly born in a spot on Earth and then we are supposed to feel love for our country? Why?

        Is there anything to be proud of for each country? All I see is politicians trying to gain popularity by lying, wars being started and finished with lies and propaganda, and citizens being generally unhappy and ignored.

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          It’s the same for religion too, it’s incredibly fortunate that most people are born in the right place for their religion of choice.

          I do think every country can be proud of some things they do, but they should also be equally ashamed of other things they do.

          Politicians are only really interested in the length of their term(s), they’re not invested to do anything outside of that.

          Hardly anybody cares and I don’t know if I envy, resent, or pity them for it.

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            I think I feel anger about it, but I have also given up on them. The future will only be worse. I think we were much better off in the 70s and 80s.