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    How do you recover that? How the hell are they going to recover what is essentially multiple time the sum of the wealth of all the top 10 richest individuals on earth???

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      By locking up the rich, seizing their wealth, and using SOEs to take over incomplete projects for pennies.

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      multiple time the sum of the wealth of all the top 10 richest individuals on earth???

      Do you mean the $78B fine or the $300B debt?

      In either case, you’re way over exaggerating. All of the top 14 wealthiest people have over $100B each. Jeff Bezos (#2 richest) has close to $200B alone.

      https://www.forbes.com/real-time-billionaires

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          Right!?

          These people have more wealth than the GDP of some nations.

          Jeff Bezos has more wealth ($190B) than the GDP of Ukraine ($170B).

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            In theory, but if he tried to liquidate all of his Amazon stock at once it’s very unlikely he would get that much for it. The price of the stock would crash.

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              except in theory they can borrow from the bank with their stock as leverage and would never actually need to liquidate anything (and they do just that).

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                Yep. This fucking loophole in the American tax system.

                You borrow against your existing wealth, then the cost basis of your investments resets upon inheritance. So your estate can sell the investment to pay off the debt, and no capital gains tax is ever paid.

                Because of this, in America, capital gains tax only applies to the middle class. The rich have a clear and obvious loophole.

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        I just hope the collapses won’t pull others with them and the whole construction sector. I think the fear of that and the effects rippling to other sectors and to trust in the economy is why bailing out is sometimes done.

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          yes, it’s a good reminder that capitalism doesn’t actually work and needs to be propped up with bailouts to ensure it doesn’t collapse and gets replaced.

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            Well China is trying to not bail them out, at least for now. And some others have done it before too. It’s just people fear the risk of doing that, hoping that by bailing them out things won’t be as bad.