• denast@lemmy.world
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    Russian here. This is a super old claim from our government and is a common source of jokes, it’s even called “Cheburnet” (from Cheburashka) colloquially, nobody really treats such claims seriously. Last time Russian government tried to influence internet was when they struggled to ban telegram for several years, and ended up giving up, endorsing it, and moving their official resources to it.

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    2 years ago

    Okay, while I’m not a fan of a fragmented internet, I am a fan of losing all the russian trolls that plague many parts of the internet and online gaming. Counterstrike and similar games will lose their saltiest players too!

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      2 years ago

      Reposting my reply to someone else on this topic for visibility:

      The Russian scammers are using a ton of proxies and VPNs. Unfortunately, this change will not affect them unless the Russian government completely removes access to the global Internet, and even then, the corruption is so deep that many officials will be selling access to the global Internet to their friends or people with with money.

      Russian scammers and social media manipulators are here to stay, likely because they’re largely state run initiatives and they’ll still have access to the global Internet.

      What this does is keep the normal Russians insulated from the rest of the world and unable to coordinate outside of their own country, where everything they do is even more tightly controlled by the government.

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      1- All countries have trolls, in one degree or another.
      2- That will also affect the Russian population, who will become even more isolated and powerless.

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      China only blocks most popular websites, they don’t block random personal pages

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        They do though, some of personal blogs i follow also banned in China; There is a saying in my circle of friends in Mainland China that the blog is “certified by Great Firewall of China” if a person’s blog got blocked

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      It would be great, but think about it for a second. Russian bots and trolls that are operated by the government will still exist, it’s not like they would cease trying to spread misinformation or destabilizing opinions. So that won’t change at all. This would primarily affect the people in the country who would now be unable to see real news or learn things the government doesn’t want them to.

      I’m all for giving Russia the finger, but I do fear that it won’t actually make anything better for the rest of us and would just make the people worse off.

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        Russian bots and trolls that are operated by the government will still exist

        I hope I can block whole ASNs originated from orcs land, so I can block those too. Or at least majority of them.

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        I mean, if no normal citizen can access the outside internet then we will know for sure that any connection coming out of Russia has to be a bot. So that would make blocking them much more easier.

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    We must somehow patch a connection in, to ensure they have a sufficient quantity of international memes, cats and porn. Access to the internet is a basic human right these days, we surely cannot abandon them.

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    I do have mixed feelings about this. Let’s say pool it off and Russia net is now thing. That makes it harder for Russian conmen to rum various scams and hacks, ex ransomware, but it makes it a lot harder for the people there to break out of the state own propaganda.

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      The Russian scammers are using a ton of proxies and VPNs. Unfortunately, this change will not affect them unless the Russian government completely removes access to the global Internet, and even then, the corruption is so deep that many officials will be selling access to the global Internet to their friends or people with money.

      Russian scammers and social media manipulators are here to stay, likely because they’re largely state run initiatives and they’ll still have access to the global Internet.

      What this does is keep the normal Russians insulated from the rest of the world and unable to coordinate outside of their own country, where everything they do is even more tightly controlled by the government.

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      That statement works for every other freedom you lose, it also serves to detect malicious intent from another person. There’s always a middle ground, where nothing’s perfect, but it’s balanced. There’s always a compromise. There’s no perfect scenario. If you want a perfect society, you have to take away all freedom. If you give away all freedoms, there’s anarchy.