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  • Your poll clearly shows that only a minority of people are more sympathetic to Israel, yet both candidates offered complete support to Israel.

    Because in a 2 party voting system, politicos generally take whichever side of an issue will (they believe) net them the most votes. Whether their choice did actually net them the most votes is another question entirely.

    How does, “I’m about equally sympathetic to both sides,” translate to, “I think we should give billions of dollars of military equipment to one side?”

    It translates to “I can understand and live with whatever decisions the politicos make”. Which then leads the politicos to consider the previous point, of ‘which side will probably net me the most votes?’.


  • Hey! I love your arguments, they’re always really well reasoned and laid out.

    I agree fully with your logic, emotional people are hurting and not going to make the best calls. I get that. The problem is, when an interaction exists only online, with no way that participants can know each other IRL. What is to prevent just about anybody who is acting in bad faith from hiding behind that emotion as a shield to justify all kinds of bad behaviour? Using this logic online means surrendering to any such party with bad intentions looking to benefit, such as the groups you mentioned in the following quote.

    I definitely think there were skilled people who latched on to that movement and tried to use it to hurt Democrats as a US political tool, too

    I don’t think there’s any real conflict between how we are seeing things, only in the way we are choosing to respond to them. You’re saying (I think) that we should give the bad actors free rein because to do otherwise would be to further hurt the ones who are already hurting. I think that to allow them to do whatever they want with impunity by allowing them to hide behind the victims is unacceptable, not least because it’s going to lead to even more victims in the long run.

    Pinging @spujb@lemmy.cafe since I think you’d be interested in continuing to follow this discussion.