CLM. More of a “Right ban for the wrong reasons”

Acknowledging reality when it doesn’t hurt THE DEMONRATS is forbidden. /s

PTB

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I don’t know, I can see how that can fall under ‘regarding the site itself’. Don’t know that you ‘deserved’ it, but I also don’t think that I’d regard the removal as power-tripping. It’s an edge case, and it seems a bit excessive to accuse the mod of power-tripping over it.

Okay so you admit there are sites on the block list

Bruh, you were the only one denying that.

and the mods are violating their own rule

Would you like to quote where ‘their own rule’ says that only sites on the blocklist will ever be removed?

Oh look, here’s the actual rule:

Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.

Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods.

The most I’m getting out of that is that they say the blocklist is actively updated, when it’s not been touched in a year.

You become so anal about taking everything literally.

I’m sorry for seeing a difference between “What’s the point of a blocklist that has no sites” and “What’s the point of a blocklist that has a few sites”. A normal person might look at those two arguments and come to two entirely different conclusions regarding the implications of each one; the former implying that a blocklist is literally serving no purpose (but is contradicted by the evidence in this particular case), and the latter decrying a blocklist simply for not being as exhaustive as you’d like it to be (which is a much less compelling argument than the former implication of literal uselessness).

You gonna clarify how Fox News being non-preferred relates to your argument, or nah? My guess is nah.

It contains four websites

You may note that “four websites” =/= “no websites”. Advanced math, I know. Also, it’s five websites, even if we exclude the link-shortener bitly.

and allows Fox News.

How is that relevant to your argument?

What is the point of the blocklist if it contain no websites

It literally contains several websites, as noted by your own screenshot in the OP.

and the moderators decide on the fly what they want to block?

A blocklist is not an exhaustive resource of unreliable sources that will not be accepted, it just hits the most common unreliable sources.

If the mods decide a source unreliable they should add it to their blocklist.

How long are you expecting the blocklist to be, then?

YDI. A blocklist is not an exhaustive resource of unreliable sources that will not be accepted, it just hits the most common unreliable sources.

YDI, try not denying genocide

I’m going to continue posting on dbzer0, personally. If it was just the matter of a mistake or a bad take, that would be one thing, but the admin’s behavior clearly indicates an attitude of hostility in his behavior as an admin towards people he considers ‘libs’, which, likewise, appears to be a very broadly applied label.

The admin has every right to trim his community in such a fashion but that necessarily means that some people will not feel welcome. The Fediverse means an individual can choose communities on an instance where they feel welcome, or at least where they don’t feel like the sword of Damocles is hanging above their head. For me, that’s not Midwest.social at this point.

AskLemmy mod team would appear to be PTB

Ah, I can help here! Latin in the western provinces of the Empire never replaced the native languages, but co-existed alongside it. In addition, Romans regarded all (or most) deities as the same gods, just worshipped under different names - the interpretatio romana. So the worldview propagated by Roman religion was that the Celtic god of war and the Roman god of war were the same being, just worshipped under different names.

This led to traditional Celtic gods of war like Lenus being worshipped as Mars, Mars being worshipped as ‘Mars Lenus’, and Romans worshipping traditional Celtic gods of war - and to the Roman worldview, and the worldview they encouraged amongst the provincials, these were all the same essential respectable act.

So while the people here were speaking their own traditional language of Gaulish, ‘Mars’ was just a synonym to them for the native god they were worshipping (or vice-versa, if you prefer). Possibly used because curse tablets were a Graeco-Roman religious tradition, and it may have felt more ‘natural’ to refer to the god being requested in the Roman way, since they were using a Roman rite?

If they don’t want to have to deal with rules preventing them from abusing their fellow users

That’s… not at all what I said.

I’m also going to be completely blunt, I don’t believe you that having to respect the choice of pronouns of transgender users isn’t the issue. I think you’re lying to cover for them.

I’m lying to cover for the trans folk on the mod team saying that they will continue to respect neopronouns and enforce rules against misgendering on the .world comm.

Uh.

Okay.

As I understand it, it wasn’t a singular disagreement, but a number of incidents in which, as I said, the 196 mods didn’t want to have their own moderation decisions reversed or second-guessed if 196’s ruleset was in compliance with the requirements of the instance.

It has a very poor reception in the academic community for a very poor analysis of the events it purports to explain

Unfortunately, I don’t know many general histories of the US in, uh, general. Modern academia has left behind most of the stuff we think of kids being taught by moldy school textbooks, but those selfsame textbooks are often resistant to academic consensus (thanks, Texas) that has been around since the 1970s.

There’s a Cambridge History of America and the World that’s an excellent starter, but it’s several volumes long and, uh, in the true spirit of academic literature, horrifically fucking expensive. I hear there are places on the Fediverse which give good advice about the high seas for such matters though

It’s very poor scholarship. Challenging the dominant narrative of nationalist mythology is important, but not in a way that disregards history.

If you get an interest in the Civil War, Sherman’s memoirs are excellent.

Honestly, at the time, I hadn’t interacted with Drag at all for months, and Drag had been banned from 196 by then anyway, and 196 was the vast majority of my Blahaj activity. For me, it was just that I didn’t feel comfortable staying in an instance that was going to hand out bans and remove comments to ensure the existence of dragons wasn’t questioned. I ‘got’ the underlying logic of it, but didn’t feel comfortable sticking around for an instance that was going to go to bat for someone who literally and verbatim repeated the old conservative “Attack Helicopter” canard.

This thread is the first time I’ve interacted with Drag since, I believe.