The person doesn’t understand the difference between Europe and European Union.

I haven’t bad faithed anything… You clearly don’t understand how hosting a service works, in the case of “thousands of users” 1000 active is a hard lowball.

You’ve clarified nothing. You constantly moved goalposts and pushed random “facts” like those statements changed anything about the original premise you presented and my response to it. You started with “THOUSANDS OF USERS”. Then backed down to 12 two posts later.

THOUSANDS OF USERS -> Okay so let’s take a case of 1000 active users…

UH UH, I didn’t say simultaneous!!! -> Good thing I only took a case of 1000 active users then… BTW we’re not even looking at server costs for processing, just raw bandwidth.

Uh Uh, What about 12 users!!! -> (we are here).

You need help dude. Nobody is coming after you. And nobody misrepresented you. You’re just completely out of your depth, which is okay. But don’t act like somebody is misrepresenting you, the world can read your responses.

So now you’ve backed down from “thousands of users” to a dozen?

If you have THOUSANDS OF USERS (your words)… you should probably at least plan for 1000 concurrents, probably more (remember you have to plan for peaks, not average).

You seem to be missing this repeatedly… I’m not sure how else to present it to you. You made the claim that a decent singular server should be able to host THOUSANDS (with an S… so multiple thousands.) I’m showing you that even if it’s just 1000 concurrents, you’re paying a heavy cost JUST for bandwidth… forget the server. You’re over your head if you think a single server is doing this shit.

I run a plex instance, I have 8gbps internet to my house. I could host probably 80-100 simultaneous streams on that bandwidth of raw blurays. My servers could not handle that load simultaneously (and they’re hooked up as 40gbps internally). If bandwidth is the easy side of this equation (it is)… and your assertions are already failing… Then you’re just plain wrong.

I do know how sentences work. I also know that paragraphs and posts sound be related to each other. Your sentences are not completely divorced from each other.

The point was that you’re claiming to do research on something just to turn around and say something that WILDLY wrong. This discredits any amount of research you would have done.

Doesn’t matter if you say simultaneously or not. You said THOUSANDS… I showed you just 1000. And this was ONLY looking at bandwidth. Not actual server costs.

by my research. A single server of sufficient power could easily serve thousands of users.

That’s some shitty research you’ve done then.

1000 users streaming something that’s 5mbps would be 5gbps.

5gbps isn’t common for consumers… and costs a lot in a datacenter (about 4k/month on the cheaper end).

But the LE/GN cases are that Honey changed URLs and cost them the sale revenue, no?

https://www.cpmlegal.com/assets/htmldocuments/GamersNexus v. Paypal.pdf

a. Nationwide Class: All persons and entities in the United States who participated in an affiliate commission program with a United States eCommerce merchant and had commissions diverted to PayPal as a result of Honey.

So yes, they’re suing on behalf of creators.

But they’re using logic of what is promised/advertised to users… alongside the creator side of it all.

12. Consumers download the PayPal Honey browser extension under the promise that Honey will search the web for the best coupons to ensure consumers pay the lowest prices when checking out with eCommerce merchants […] After this affiliate network partnership is established, on information and belief, Honey deliberately withholds higher-value coupons, directly contradicting Honey’s promise to consumers.

Which we know is inaccurate at this point and honey is lying. Most of the rest will come out in discovery if Honey wants to fight it. And I think it’s safe to say that anything that comes out in discovery will simply hang honey even more than we already know.

It could never apply to ad blockers. You install an ad blocker knowing that it will block stuff… and explicitly WANTING it to do so.

Nobody installed honey knowing that it was manipulating cookies and stuff. The normal layperson who installs it will just think “It’s just chucking in coupon codes into that box!”…

One is predicated on a lie of omission… the other is literally what the user wants. There’s a huge difference…

Nah man, clearly you missed the memo that we now just take every statement out of it’s obvious context and straw man the shit out of everything.

It hurts every real argument against these people when people make stupid arguments like this.

What’s not safe is when someone fails to resort to an effective treatment because they’re instead fooled into using one that does nothing. And that’s what’s happening with Ivermectin.

Cool, then piss on the people that make the call for the ineffective treatment. Not the perfectly useful drug that is in public domain and saved millions (many millions) of lives with 3.7 Billion doses consumed.

Edit: If a COVID denier told you to just drink water and you’ll get over it. Would you then turn around and call water “horse hydrating water” for the rest of your life? Do you not see how 1) absolutely stupid you’d look and 2) that you’re attempting to put down water by saying it? Even though it’s literally required to keep you alive?

While Ivermectin isn’t “required” to live… for many it’s the only answer. Now they’ll be stigmatized for no fucking reason other than this constant fucking rant of “horse dewormer”. At this point I don’t doubt that someone has turned down a legitimate use of Ivermectin over this shit, probably had to go for an alternative drug that is not in the public domain and paid some pharma company boatloads to do it. So like I’ve said probably a dozen times at this point. Piss on the people making the shit claim. Not the perfectly valid drugs that have very valuable purposes.

That’s not what anyone else is discussing here.

Sorry. But I’m not interested in talking to someone who claims “that’s not what were talking about” when that’s literally the core part of the discussion as started by OP.

To me it’s literally akin to “Corn is used in cow feed” therefore “Corn is only for cows”.
It’s asinine and stupid.
Now the clarification could be that “Lesser grade corn is used in cow feed” therefore “you shouldn’t eat cow feed”.

But that’s never the claim anytime I see “horse dewormer ivermectin” and never has any evidence been provided that it’s any different quality or type of ivermectin in the horse paste. Even if that difference in “quality” would even matter to begin with especially since the drug has been open marketed for so long and it’s production commoditized so much. I wouldn’t doubt for a moment that the same fucking factory pumps out both pill and whatever gets mixed into the horse paste… probably just the original pill product in powder form.

I know it started with COVID, but to become a wonder drug…

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3043740/

It garners it’s “wonder drug” status long before COVID. Just not for any reason related to COVID. Nor Cancer…

It’s used by vets more than doctors.

It is only in the sense that third-world countries that rely on it just freely give it out rather than making it prescribed. Case and point being that it’s freely available in Mexico, as linked above.

Humans require a prescription, in the US, anyway.

US only accounts for ~350 million of the many BILLIONS of people on the planet. We’re talking about a drug that has been taken by BILLIONS and you can’t shut the fuck up about the 350 million Americans?

It is labeled for horses primarily. Approved for and customarily used on animals first.

Initial research RELEASED the drugs for animals first… Mostly because it’s easier to get approval for animal drugs than human drugs.

However, this drug has been trialed to humans since ~1980 (Animals is credited as “late 70’s”, but “was initially introduced as a commercial product for Animal Health in 1981”). So really no difference in timelines here comparatively… But you go ahead and keep lying about shit. If your qualifier that it’s “animal first” is that it was trialed in animals mere months before it was trialed in humans, then sure, you’re right. But I’m taking issue with that. That’s bullshit and you should know it. And yes, it’s also normal for human trials to last much longer than animal ones. Thus why it was on trials for years.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3043740/

So once again… kindly fuck off with the lying about the medicine. You’re better than that.

Berate the moron, not the functional medicine.

First you’re going to have to define “they”. The people that I unfortunately live around are part of this “they” group with your implied “all the people taking it for COVID” definition. All of them simply got the pills from Mexico, where you can walk into any farmacia and pick up boxes upon boxes of the stuff for like 1$ per pill. They’re setup for this down there… and talking to them when I was last there nearly 100% of their purchases come from the USA. And just like you, I can link a store, even several!
https://medsmex.com.mx/store/stromectol-ivexterm-ivermectin-6-mg-4-tabs/p-4734.html
https://arecovpharma.com/medications/products-covid-19
https://mexipharmacy.mx/eng/item/3686/veridex-ivermectin-4tab-6mg

This is way more common than your nonsense “well people are ordering from the farm supply store!”

I think either one of two things… You’ve fallen for a troll with your “dummies on Facebook”, or you’re lying, unknowingly or otherwise, in your claim that this is how “everyone” was getting it.

Once again (because it’s apparent that at least half of lemmy is incapable of reading based on the downvotes), I’m not stupid enough to think that Ivermectin does anything useful for COVID-19. But just because you saw 1-2 people on Facebook say something completely fucking dumb doesn’t mean that the whole of people taking the drug are doing it that way, or that the normal non-horse paste version of the medicine is hard to get a hold of. This is literally one of the most by dosage consumed medications of the planet. Very few people are taking the horse paste version of this thing when the pills are so readily available.

And even then… EVEN THEN, so what? Let the idiots eat their horse paste. Hopefully they choke on the filler and society becomes smarter for it… The drug itself is shown to be safe (though ineffective for what they’re hoping for). One of the links I posted previously showed no ill effects for up to 3000μg/kg (which only tested that high… not that it wouldn’t be safe at higher dosages). That paste you linked? is 200 μg/kg for it’s target 1250 horse. So for a 200lb human is 1250μg/kg. Well within “safe” tolerances, assuming they’re eating the whole damn tube. Laugh at them for being stupid sure, but I don’t see where ivermectin as one of the cheapest most taken drugs on the planet needs to garner a bad wrap from this. It’s saved boatloads of lives over it’s ~50 years in service now. It’s not “horse” dewormer. It as a drug is good for just about any parasite removal in just about ANY living animal… of which humans are indeed animals.

And lying by stating its for horses in a manner that makes someone assume it’s not for humans at all resolves what?

Everytime I hear it introduced as “horse dewormer”. The bias is already made clear.

While Mel Gibson is clearly off his rocker in that Ivermectin can’t do jack shit against cancer… So is OP for acting like it’s not safe for human consumption. It’s safe for consumption even at 10x a “normal” dosage (with all the Covid-19 studies showing that while more or less ineffective for COVID, not at all harmful otherwise at up to 3000μg/kg… or 15x a typical dosage http://ssrn.com/abstract=3714649).

IVM has been used safely in 3.7 billion doses worldwide since 1987

It’s 100% safe… and boatloads of it have been given to humans for longer than most people arguing about this shit have been alive.

Source: https://www.eurekaselect.com/article/41838

TL;DR… While probably useless for anything that people recently attribute to it… It’s safe for consumption as a general rule.

I’m the one that had to clear it… I’m pretty sure putting my face within 3 ft of the bowl uniquely qualifies me to talk about how much toilet paper was in the bowl.

This was it when I was in the military. Requisition the nice stuff? Joe’s took it home.

Single ply? They break through with their fingers after 1/4 of the wipe, but I didn’t have to order nearly as much of it.

As a father… of 2 girls… and a wife. I promise, you’re wrong.

I have three of those super flush toilets. I cannot clog it… I’ve completely filled the fucking thing with shit and it flushes. The other gender in the house? They’ve done it twice so far. We’ve had this house for about 8 months now. I’m baffled.

Edit: Typos

But Mexico has 63 more miles of coastline on the Gulf than the USA does.

USA != America. USA is a country that resides on the North American Continent.

While I know Trump is doing this to try and claim it as the USA’s… It actually makes sense if you actually use “America” properly to refer to North, Central and South America.