C is basically high level assembly. It’s hardware agnostic high level assembly. I have written both, this is personal experience and also I believe even Linus has said EXACTLY that statement. It is an opinion ofc and you’re welcome to disagree but it isn’t just me.

I never said it was a policy but it’s definitely true. Inline assembly IS still assembly. I’m saying if the code can be written in C it more than likely will be over assembly unless there is a very good reason to write it in ASM. The kernel is 97.97% C and just over 1% ASM. If that doesn’t prove what I’m getting at Idk what else will. It’s a totally different circumstance than replacing large swaths of C with rust or introducing large amounts of rust in favor of C.

There are already 2 languages in the kernel: C and Assembly

Assembly and C share a very very close relationship. C is really just high level ASM and ASM is used as little as realistically possible in the kernel so the situation is different.

That already happened and Linus decided to accept Rust code into the kernel.

Doesn’t mean you should neglect the opinion of every other maintainer. I’m not saying rust shouldn’t be included here or that Linus shouldn’t have the right to override his opinion. I am saying calling names as opposed to discussing his concerns is not productive. FOSS is a collaborative space and that collaboration is important even if redundant at times.

I do take it seriously and I think he’s overreacting a little but he does make a reasonable point. Bringing 2 languages into the kernel does create a divide that can come with a maintenance burden. The burden is probably worth the benefits but it’s still an additional burden and that is a valid concern IMO that should be properly addressed and argued with pros/cons rather than name calling and dismissal. Maybe he is acting in bad faith, but I feel like that should only be the conclusion drawn AFTER a reasonable attempt to talk things over has been made.

Additionally assuming someone is acting in bad faith when they’re not can make them jaded with the rust community and push them to actually acting with bad faith even if they weren’t before.

Regardless of the situation and whether he’s acting in bad faith or not I feel like marcan’s comments add nothing productive to the situation and that was my real point with the comment.

I’m personally on board with the comment left by @equinox@chaos.social. I think marcan is unnecessarily escalating this situation and I’d hardly describe Christoph’s behavior as sabotage. He does appear to have a real technical concern regarding maintainability and I think discussing that concern is more productive than dismissing it and calling him a saboteur.

You put https in your link but there seems to be a certificate issue. The site works over http just fine tho

What’s 14? 13 is still in testing so I’m surprised 15 has a name picked out

EDIT: Click the article dumbass

On the one hand it does seem a bit out of place, on the other hand if the mod team is doing this against most community members wishes it is kind of a power trip in a way?

And I’m a network engineer by day that runs his own clearnet ASN for fun. Let’s not start throwing insults, that’s not productive. If you’d like me to discuss how you’re wrong I’m more than willing to go into detail if you’re actually interested in having a conversation about it.

No one uses it? LMAO…I’m sorry that’s just really funny, it’s used everywhere behind the scenes. Almost every network has some amount of mDNS on it.

That last part is just nuts, I mean that whole section is just nuts but especially the last part afaic. Also very uninformed

I haven’t read the sources you posted yet, I’ve been arguing entirely with the content of your messages as reading the sources in the middle of an argument is too time consuming, however I will go read them just to see if it changes my world view. That is the point of all this. Anyway, cheers (I am not trolling for what it’s worth, if you’d rather label me an idiot then feel free to do so)

Whatever dude, Lemmy is way too far left for me to be arguing at this point. I don’t approve of genocide on either side and I’m leaving it at that. I’m not gonna win or even remotely get anywhere so I’ll stop wasting everyone’s time. It’s not productive which is the entire point of having an argument.

Of course not, depends on what it is. You can’t just write a blank check so to speak and tolerate ANY behavior, that’s not remotely acceptable no matter the side, but alas no matter what I say Israel doing anything other than rolling over is them doing too much for you guys.

…you should do some more research. What you just described isn’t communism, it doesn’t even match the dictionary definition of communism which requires there to be no private property. China has been progressively moving more free market even though they remain steadfast in their dystopian autocratic ways.

…right…so 20% of the Israeli population is Arab…and they get arrested and assaulted on the daily. That’s a fairly substantial percentage for a minority population, seems unlikely for the percentage to both be that high and for them to be treated so poorly and oppressed so throughly especially when they could just defect to Palestine. Additionally Israel has an 18% Islamic population when broken down by religion. Look at Palestine meanwhile, 99% Islamic, 100% Arab…the numbers don’t lie, one of them is definitely more tolerant of diversity than the other.

I said it was counterproductive for a reason

While this is true I’m not sure what that has to do with authoritarianism. I think the reasons for incarceration speak far more to what is authoritarian and what isn’t. A thousand people incarcerated for murder isn’t authoritarian, a single person jailed for speech is. The US doesn’t have a perfect track record there but it’s far better than most other countries.

Why is it that Arabs live peacefully in Israel yet a Jew steps foot in Palestine and gets killed. Also…just throwing this out there but you should really listen to some of the talks given by Mosab Hassan Yousef, they are incredibly eye opening.

2 can play that game, it really isn’t productive. Where was Israel located in 900BCE?

Israel wouldn’t be attacking Palestine if Palestine hadn’t attacked first.