Why do I keep seeing this particular comparison? It’s the least obvious part of the whole thing. The rest was clearly a Nazi salute. Without that context you may think he’s clutching his chest because he’s having a heart attack or something.

Edit: nevermind I’m just dumb. I guess gifs don’t auto load on my Lemmy client anymore. I swear they used to.

You’re talking about a guy that could pay 100 million dollars for a new account and not even notice. He obviously wouldn’t pay anywhere near that much for something like this. There is no financial cost you can force on him that will change his behavior.

You’re making a lot of unfounded assumptions about what would have happened if Trump were assassinated. No one else has been able to harness MAGA energy the way he has. It’s entirely possible the movement would splinter without its figurehead. We won’t know that until he’s gone. Although it seems less likely now that he presumably has 4 years to enact policy changes and put people in place to keep his agenda moving after his term is up.

There’s plenty of debate to be had on the topic of the effectiveness of guns in civil resistance. All of which can be found in more detail elsewhere than we’re going to be able to cover here. However, suffice it to say that your understanding of resistance in general and guerilla tactics specifically is severely lacking if you’re assuming that this situation would play out as an open confrontation between the US military and some sort of militia. Despite the fact that such a conflict would provide more room for maneuvering than you are giving it credit, that would not be the preferred method of engagement. Generals and other senior officers have to buy groceries and go to the DMV just like everyone else. You pick your targets when and where you can get them. More than anything else, it’s important to acknowledge that in the situation where it becomes necessary to think about these kinds of things in more detail, my guns afford me many more options than your knives (or whatever else you prefer to rely on) would. Unless, of course, you plan on giving up without a fight, in which case we clearly have such different outlooks that additional discussion will not help us find common ground.

If there was ANY chance that The 2nd Amendment could pose ANY threat to a tyrannical government, it would have been destroyed decades ago.

Somebody almost killed Trump in July. A couple of inches was the difference between a Republican party in chaos just before the election and a party united behind their fascist hamberdler. The way this is going the 2A is going to be your only real defense against modern Nazism so you’d be better off hitting the range and getting proficient with a firearm than you are posting pics with #resist on Instagram.

Yeah yeah we get it, everyone is wrong but you and all that.

Democrats aren’t progressive. That’s a big part of the problem actually.

What are you doing differently?

Just waiting for that “Player 2 has entered the game” notification

I’ll believe it when I see it.

I haven’t played most of the popular games released this year but I know they’re not any good

– this guy

If a server gets enough boosts they can add largely useless extra stuff like more custom stickers and emojis. There’s a few legit benefits like higher quality audio / video and being able to create a custom server invite link but it’s mostly fluff.

Mikrotik is solid until Russia annexes Latvia

Yeah you definitely couldn’t live without a specific VR headset.

48 hours is only for regular cases with one or two cops assigned. High profile stuff like this gets considerably more attention and resources for a longer period of time

Not if this was an isolated incident. If it turns out to be something else then maybe.

I think we’ve already established that the list you made was a pretty good one so the suggestion that a list of those most responsible can’t be made is pretty odd to me.

Let’s say I agree with you that violence is never the answer, what’s your alternate suggestion? Your thinking seems to be that oppressed people need to reason with their oppressors but what happens when they don’t listen? How long are people supposed to suffer before alternate methods are morally justified? What sort of escalation path exists within your moral framework? It seems to me that your reasoning ends with “just wait longer and hope justice prevails” but at some point that becomes untenable.

Again, that may or may not be what’s going on here but clearly some people think it is so the discussion is worth having.

I listed everybody. Every single human being on this planet is, in some way, responsible for the current state of society.

Being intentionally obtuse doesn’t add anything to the discussion. Your average person, especially those in other countries, don’t view themselves as responsible for healthcare costs in America. Whether or not that is technically true is irrelevant as their contribution is not nearly as important as the others on your list. Take away the line about voters and maybe the doctors and nurses, though some would likely disagree with that part, and you’ve got a pretty accurate list of the people most responsible for the situation. They oversee these systems and are therefore seen to be responsible for associated outcomes.

There’s any number of ways to make a difference that are better than shooting a man in the middle of the street.

Are they really? How many people have been doing those things for decades with very little to show for it? How much campaigning can a parent paying for cancer treatment for their kid be reasonably expected to do? How many generic responses from representatives not listening to the concerns of their constituents should we trudge through?

Whether or not this shooter was motivated by the reasons we’re all assuming is pretty irrelevant at this point. The simple fact that we’re having this discussion at this scale demonstrates that people do not believe that the things you mentioned will improve things, and I think that’s a perfectly reasonable interpretation of the situation we find ourselves in. Maybe vigilante action is not the answer but I think it’s pretty clear that the usual responses you’re giving are not resonating with people. Decision makers need to change that perception if they want to prevent people from looking outside the system for answers.

I feel like you are thinking about this wrong. From where I sit I think it’s more likely that you’re expanding the target list than helping put the brakes on this kind of vigilante behavior.

You aren’t wrong in a lot of what you’re saying though. Street justice rarely stays just for long. This may also be an isolated incident. However, some kind of pushback against this system is inevitable. If the people you listed don’t help improve the situation then yes, they probably should be worried for their safety, and to be honest I don’t think meaningful change is possible until they are. Strikes, sit-ins, and protests have only ever been effective when paired with the implied threat of physical violence if demands are not met. Greed needs to be deincentivized in one way or another. Governments and corporations don’t seem interested in making that happen so action like this seems increasingly likely to me.

Idk. People have been saying the last version of Windows was the best one for decades (with a couple of notable exceptions). Until they switch to something else in large enough numbers to get the right asshat with an MBA at Microsoft to pay attention they will just keep squeezing.