Just want to add. Don’t ask them a question, waiting with a prepared response to whatever they say. Go into the conversation with an idea of what you want to say, sure, but don’t ask someone a question you don’t intend to fully listen to the answer of in an attempt to make a smooth segue.
If you ask what she’s been doing lately, and she doesn’t happen to mention her hobbies, but she does engage the conversation with you and tells you about her week, day, whatever, make sure you’re present and listening, and don’t immediately blow her response off with, “well I do XYZ, ever try?”
You got this!
Oh God, I did not hear about that one. God dammit.