My girlfriend has threatened to break up with me several times now unless I cut down to a pack a week. I’m not addicted but it does help me get through my day. I keep trying to tell her that but she doesn’t believe me and keeps saying that it’s actually bad. I want to prove to my girlfriend that smoking cigarettes is actually good for you so that she can stop judging me over it but I can’t find any info online to back that up. Can anyone help me find some resources that list the health benefits of cigarettes? Like how nicotine kills germs or anything like that?

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    It should be really telling that you can’t find anything positive about cigarettes online, even when you specifically search for positive aspects.

    They cause cancer and you smell disgusting after smoking them. Just listen to your girlfriend on this.

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        I’m not addicted it’s just a habit!

        But it was true though I quit after 30 years of smoking - just went cold turkey. First few days were a bit rough because you have those moments during the day when you light one up (after eating, leaving work, …), habits.

        But it’s been a month so 💪

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        That’s actually true I could stop anytime I want to I just don’t want to right now.

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          You’re shitposting right? I mean this is what literally every addict I’ve ever met says about anything. Drugs, Beer, Cigs, Gambling, Porn, etc. they all say this exact phrase before admitting they have a problem later down the road.

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          As a half a pack a day smoker for most of my life, this is what all addicts say.

          You’re just in denial.

          If you can quit whenever you want then why is this worth the fight to you? Because you’re addicted.

          They help you get through the day because not having them is a stressor. Because you’re addicted.

          I haven’t had a cigarette in like 2 years and they still sound good sometimes. Because I’m addicted.

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      You can’t think of any benefits without googling for it?

      If you didn’t have breakfast yesterday, how would you feel today?

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      You sound just like my girlfriend she’s always nagging like that “They make you smell bad and cause lung cancer” and “I feel like I’m starting to not love you anymore” stupid stuff like that.

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            Yeah… as the son of smokers, everyone can smell the cigs on you. There’s really no escaping it.

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            My parents smoke. They only need to open the door, stay there and talk. My whole room stinks for a few seconds after that shit. Same in the bus when someone smoked close before entering.

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            Just because you’re noseblind to it doesn’t mean everyone else can’t smell you.

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          No we’re serious. Don’t you know, everything is super serious on the internet nowadays?

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    I’m not addicted but it does help me get through my day.

    Yeah… you’re addicted.

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        I stopped telling myself that twenty years ago… at one point or the other, even I couldn’t believe it any more.

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        Same, I could quit Lemmy if I wanted to. I just don’t want to be bored so I spend 24 hours a day doom scrolling Lemmy. I’m totally not addicted!

        /s

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    think about it. Even online, where there are all kinds of stupid misinformation, you couldn’t find any info to back your claim.

    maybe she’s right and she loves you enough to threaten you to do something good for your health

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      maybe she’s right and she loves you enough to threaten you to do something good for your health

      Yeah, this is a good thing OP. She cares enough to have an uncomfortable conversation with you.

      In your shoes I’d show her I really wasn’t addicted by stopping.

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      If he didn’t care about me he wouldn’t get so mad

      you sound just like a battered wife, stop condoning controlling behavior

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    You want to kill germs? Use mouthwash. There’s pretty much nothing beneficial about smoking cigarettes.

    Even when you take the health considerations out of account, you will reek. I assure you, nobody wants to spend time around a partner that emits a nauseating scent. It’s a bad habit in every sense of the term.

    Yes - nicotine can be a quick stress reliever. That’s about al it’s good for.

    I understand that you need something to help you get through the days, but there are tons of other things that you could do.

    Heck, even switching to vaping will improve your health outcomes considerably. And you won’t smell.

    I don’t know why you’re fighting your girlfriend on this, it seems like she’s genuinely concerned and you’re being so stubborn as to look online to justify your addiction. Yes, you are addicted. You smoke more than a pack a week and refuse to quit or offer a compromising alternative. If I was her, I’d leave you.

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      She keeps asking me to switch to vaping and even though I like cigarettes I might do that eventually if she’s actually serious about leaving me. I just need to find the cartridges with the best nicotine so I can still get the health benefits from it.

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        “so I can still get the health benefits from it”

        Seriously, you aren’t getting healt benefits. You might feel better but that is the nicotine, it’s a psychological effect not something that is improving your physical health in any discernable way.

        Just understand, people don’t smoke because it’s good for their bodies, people smoke because it feels good, it’s an important distinction.

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          people smoke because it feels good

          Also only partially true. What feels good is mostly the satisfaction of the withdrawal symptoms that come with the addiction.

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            Most probably, but there is always the possibility of people either being underage, stupid or unaware due to upbringing (imagine being told your whole life something is in a particular way, it isnt unreasonable not to doubt that) and I prefer to engage honestly with people even if I look like an idiot, just in case.

            Of course when clear bad faith is shown I will just not engage, or call it out, but in

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            It really isn’t, at least in the way the term is used. For example, would you describe the feeling you get after snorting cocaine as a “health benefit” just because you feel better momentarily???

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        If you want liquid that will hit hard, get nicotine salt based eliquid.

        If you want to make your own, Caroline extract can’t be beat (in the USA)

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    I’m reading through the comments and every reply of yours is like another stroke of the paint brush. I will watch your dark art from afar.

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      I don’t like living with how my girlfriend is nagging me over me smoking all the time which is why I came here to ask about the benefits.

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    You sound like a teenager. As an almost 20 year smoker, if you’re “not addicted” then quit now.

    Health benefits aside, it’s a massive pain in the ass and a money pit. Everyone (rightfully) talks about getting lung cancer, but no one talks about how fucking annoying it is to have to stop what you’re doing every 2 hours to feed your cravings.

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      I’m not spending too much money on it I smoke under a pack a day, I could quit whenever I want to right now but I’ll just do it later.

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        As somehow who lost a close one to cancer, quit now and not later. The more you wait, the greater the chances you’ll get cancer. Don’t wait and regret it.

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        Literally what I told myself when I was 16 lmao.

        Buddy, you are not immune to nicotine addiction. You do not need to smoke a pack a day to be addicted, I currently smoke half a pack a day and am most definitely addicted. Test yourself, go a day without and see if you don’t get irritable and have cravings.

        There are no benefits to smoking. Any benefits you percieve are the cigarettes relieving withdrawl symptoms.

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        Let’s assume a pack of smokes is only $7. In just one year of a pack every other day, that adds up to $1,277.

        Is that yearly subscription worth it?

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        You’re welcome.

        I quit after over 20 years. It was really, really hard. I still crave them. Won’t start again, just because quitting was so incredibly difficult. But, yeah. I, uh, think about it… Both sides of it.

        Be aware, I cherry picked the information you had asked for from a much larger work. Just “Chapter 3 - The health effects of active smoking” has 37 sections. Everyone but the one I linked above has a list of negative effects. Have a look at the rest of it, too.

        Chapter 3 Index: https://www.tobaccoinaustralia.org.au/chapter-3-health-effects

        Don’t just confirm your biases. Look at the whole picture.

        Wish you the best.

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    No benefits at all really. The smoke contains poison that causes cancer and nicotine causes vascular disease. If you really could quit anytime you should. But you can’t because you’re an addict. You should listen to your GF and quit. Otherwise you’re destroying your health and your relationship.

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    As someone who smoked Camels for years and is now just as addicted to vaping, there are no benefits. Zero.

    When I smoked cigs, I stank constantly. Even if I sprayed perfume or had a mint. My fingers always smelled.

    I did 12 straight years of choir, but now I have a much smaller vocal range. I’m not as active because I get winded. Now that I vape and have constant access, I get cranky after like 30 minutes of no nicotine.

    My blood pressure is higher. I can’t be on the type of birth control that gives me less side effects because my smoking makes it higher risk.

    I’m raising my risk of cancer. I’m spending a fuckton of money on flavored air.

    There is literally no positive and I wish I had never touched it.

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      I had success quitting vaping by switching to nicotine lozenges. Try it, they are cheaper than most vapes.

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    Have you looked at this from her standpoint? Cigarettes cause cancer, and second-hand smoke can lead to cancer as well, or at least serious health issues. Her being with you in the long run may mean she might get it, or you get it, or both of you get it. All outcomes are really bad for both of you, physically, emotionally/mentally.

    I’m not sure how serious you two are. But if you are, maybe start to work on it. If you say you can stop, prove it to her and yourself. If you say you don’t have an addiction, test that theory, for both you and her. If you want to meet her half-way, maybe consider cutting back or switching to vape.

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      vape

      that’s great advice “don’t smoke this natural substance instead inhale this concoction of mystery chemicals assembled as cheaply as possible in a country that can’t even make safe baby formula”

      I’ll trust mother nature over whatever give vape users (vapists?) popcorn lung.

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      why should it matter what he does to his own body. I don’t know why so many people in this comments section are condoning this controlling and borderline abusive behavior. Regular ultimatums are not part of healthy relationships.

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        Then this relationship is already not healthy. If OP refuses to compromise, that is also not a good sign for the relationship. Yes, OP should be allowed to do whatever they want with their body, but not to the extent of potentially hurting others around them, especially knowingly so. And relationship is a 2-way street that needs communication, understanding and compromise. If OP wants to continue smoking, they can do so, but should understand their partner’s point of view and the consequences.

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          I can’t speak for OP but I won’t blame the victim of a controlling partner for not acquiescing to their demands. Smoking isn’t illegal, smoking around people is legal, and he should be able to do with his body as a he pleases and his girlfriend should be adult enough to respect that

          also…

          vape

          That’s great advice “don’t smoke this natural substance instead inhale this concoction of mystery chemicals assembled as cheaply as possible in a country that can’t even make safe baby formula”

          I’ll trust mother nature over whatever give vape users (vapists?) popcorn lung.