I’m going insane. I cannot for the life of me find a suitable way to listen to music privately. I’m on iOS, and I don’t know whether to just stick to Apple Music or give up on music in general (I tried, TRIED to go local, but all the apps are shitty). Any way to listen to music and not have your data compromised? Should I just stick to Apple Music and hope that laws change (maybe something like EU’s DMA?)
Edit: Hey all! First of all, thank you so much for all the recommendations! I’ve discovered so many great apps and tools I didn’t even know existed (and it has also brought my hopes up for privacy in general). Even though it’s still not perfect, I’ve been using foobar2000 on iOS, downloading music I find (I’m still using Apple Music for discovery, but will probably stop when my subscription ends this month). For desktop I’m using HyperPipe, which although a little buggy at times is so awesome! One thing I do miss about this system is the lack of lyrics. Apple Music has such a beautiful UI when it comes with lyrics, but you can’t have it all when it comes to privacy it seems. Thanks for the amazing discussion! I’m so far loving Lemmy ;)
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Yeah. Buy it directly from the artist then throw it all into a self hosted service like plex or jellyfin.
There’s also navidrome, if you only want to stream music.
If you only need music streaming, then a service like Navidrome may be better.
I’ll be honest, the only way to listen to music privately is to download it. (And using an opensource music player)
There are Github repositories with CLI programs to download complete Spotify playlists with Youtube and also download their metadata.
there are also CDs and vinyl 🤷
something brilliant I’ve found with modern vinyl is a lot of them come with a download card so you can get lossless files.
now if they would just fucking advertise which ones that would be great.
Any opensource music players for iOS you recommend? I found Flacbox which seems alright (a little buggy but you can’t win them all, can you?)
Its not opensource as far as i know, but i use documents5 (or 6 now?) by readdle and its been p good for music
MP3 files that you own. They can never take them away from you, and you don’t have to pay every month for them.
I download the music from YouTube (through front-end services like Piped) and play it locally through a music player.
I don’t know how it works on iPhone (I have an Android phone), but I can use NewPipe and LibreTube and Seal to download the music. If I’m on the go that is. Otherwise I download the music through ytdlp and transfer the files to my smartphone.
Apple really restrict their users to their own ecosystem.
Yt-dlp is great for getting music from YouTube music.
You even get fairly good quality if you have premium (I do through Argentina, so it costs me cents per month)
Woot? yt-dlp premium? Never heard of it. yt-dlp have always been and will always be free (donations aside) since it’s open sourced. Sounds like you pay to a scammer. Or do you mean YouTube Premium? :)
Setup your own subsonic or ampache server. nextcloud has an app for that.
Jellyfin.
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Some people have hundreds of gigabytes of perfectly legally obtained music.
They don’t want all of this on their phone. Also you can have your movies and shows on Jellyfin.
I use a jellyfin server plus finamp for ios plus totally legal downloaded music that was 100% legally obtained.
I built an OpenMediaVault NAS and run a JellyFin server on it… connect with wireguard and stream music with Symfonium I’ve decided to download on the web… it’s a little work to get there but it’s def private as long as you trust the devs. I’d also recommend vimusic for music discovery and web playing.
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Nicotine+ and Plexamp
I still buy CDs. And back then up to play in my truck. And rip them.
I still think OWNING media is a good idea. No privacy issues at all.
Do people not just download music anymore?
I’m 26, and don’t know anyone, myself included, who purchases and downloads music to any significant degree. Essentially everyone I know just uses streaming platforms.
Wow, they got your generation good. I’m over here listening to flac files and mp3s I ripped in 2003.
Sounds terrible for privacy.
Respectfully, I think you may be drastically overestimating how much average people care about that.
Well, considering the community this discussion is in…
And, respectfully, the average person doesn’t seem to give much of a fuck about anything other their own base desires most of the time.
Sure. But the question you asked was “Do people not just download music anymore?”, and the answer to that question, which you seemed unaware of, is “Not really, no”.
Do enjoy your highly refined and elevated desires, O noble one.
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Im on a Jailbroken iPhone with all Apple network requests blocked with AdGuard and no Appleid.
Honestly, I’d trust a vanilla iPhone over that hacked together mess you’ve got going there.
For Android- Blackhole | web - beatbumb and hyperpipe
Is there something wrong with mp3s?
