I’ve noticed both medical dramas and police dramas rely heavily on Californian legal practice, because Hollywood. For example, I just watched the episode of Doc (it’s literally just called Doc) where a doctor saved someone on the “DNR list” and almost got suspended, and so here I was thinking “the patient’s perspective would never fly in my environment”. Of course, though, the US (and definitely California) are not the whole world. So I was wondering, what’s an episode of a medical/police drama you could think of where, in your legal environment, the characters would seem crazy for diving into the topic of how they did?
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Hey mod/poster, you removed my reply, added one of your own that was down voted…are you applying for a US government post or what?
Also, my post totally answered the prompt and you didn’t cite any community rules as to why it was removed, so I assume it’s because you don’t understand or agree with it, which seems like a “you, poster” problem not a mod issue. You make Lemmy a worse place with this kind of abuse of mod responsibility.
There is a rule saying no US politics is allowed if it’s tangential. I have been trying to balance that with an understanding of how things develop, but then you have things like people turning it into a deterrent as well as a window to break other rules. So I thought “well this conversation that seemed oddly specifically Trumpy seems forgotten about” and I removed it :(
Doctor Mike is a real doctor with a youtube channel. He reviews multiple episodes of House and they’re hilarious. It’s like every time House has some epiphany and orders some new radical treatment he winds up yelling “WHY!?” into the ether.
I guess it wouldn’t really change at all since I am in California. I’ll still have free healthcare (that isn’t very good) from the state, and all the doctors are super sexy because that’s actually how it is here. Everyone thinks Hollywood is bullshit; they’ve just never been to California. 🤷🏻♂️
Wasn’t The Resident in Georgia?
Basically none of the police drama coming out of Hollywood would hold up in the real world. Not even in California.
They do draw heavily upon references to their norms though.
a doctor saved someone on the “DNR list” and almost got suspended, and so here I was thinking “the patient’s perspective would never fly in my environment”.
Assuming you mean a Do Not Resuscitate order; not list
Curious what you mean by it not flying in your environment.The conceptualization behind them isn’t treated everywhere equally. I’m not as traditionally-minded as the people around me, but I live somewhere that’s far more traditional than progressive California. Now maybe I’m not updated on the norms (and to be fair, I’m still new here), but I think I remember reading it’s viewed as an omen of a shortage of therapy here, in the same way as its more self-destructive alternatives.
It seems like there’s some disconnect here on what a DNR order is. I’m not an expert but my understanding is it’s a legal statement the patient made prior to becoming a patient defining what lengths should or shouldn’t be taking to keep them alive.
So I don’t see what that has to do with California being progressive.
When you say “omen of a shortage of therapy” it sounds like you’re maybe talking about being an organ donor?
…as opposed to self-harm?
Some people consider not wanting to be alive to be not wanting to be alive. Cut and dry. They lump all the implications together, all the dilemmas and all the complexities that arise with the life issue. This is often associated with the law-based concepts of the Good Samaritan and the “duty to protect”. They, of course, are not mind readers and can’t look into the individual’s psyche and they resort to not taking chances. Was the person of sound mind? Were they under duress? Where do they stand between circumstantial acceptance and circumstantial yearning? Things even such as those they won’t end up guessing. Some are too afraid of what such a power can turn into, via the slippery slope trope.
The more clarification I ask for the less clarity I’m getting which is kinda disappointing because I think the original question was possibly very interesting…
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You say that like “some people consider not wanting to be alive to be not wanting to be alive” might not immediately establish “alright, this society quite clearly thinks refusal of life support is a passive form of suicide”. That’s just how it is here, whether I like it or not.
Are you saying that a DNR would be viewed as the same as euthanasia? Because those are very different things legally and a DNR is a very standard document in most developed countries.
Different in some places but not everywhere. I’m not saying this as a position, just an observation. My viewpoint would be far more developed than even that.
