‘FUCK SPEZ’: Reddit Users Unite to Turn r/Place Mural Into a Protest::Reddit’s collaborative art project seemingly has one overarching message to Reddit’s CEO.
The point of opening it this early again was to garner traffic. Don’t go there at all. It would have been best if only mods and corpo shills were placing pixels.
This 100%. Engagement to show your protest is still engagement. Give Reddit your absence.
I wish I did this. I went to check if there were any signs of the protest and couldn’t help but contribute to one of the “fuck spez” signs
I then realized that place already felt kind of overdone last time they did it, this time it just feels completely meaningless
Place is cool when its people just working together to draw things. What is not cool is the corpo bots instantaneously placing their logo and people fucking with the art outside of the given rules to users. That ruins it completely.
we can do one thing, pretend like a lot of the engagement is fake, being a chill for myself real quick
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If you want to take a peek without sending traffic to them then there is a YouTube livestream of r/place.
My response to this was to delete my modded Sync and transition fully to Lemmy. Done dabbling.
Over the last few hours, many of the “FUCK SPEZ” drawings have started to be taken over by other image, causing users to suggest that Reddit admins are interfering with their art (there is no evidence so far that would prove this).
Except the fact that the over writing pixels all arrive in large blocks at the same time rather than individually like real users would place them, and also that they appear with no username attached to them like user placed ones?
They also went out of thier way to use the same checkerboard overwrites that they used on the guillotine, on a QR code that took people to a website promoting veganism.
QR code was a mistake and does not suite that use case. Changing a few spots would have corrupted the URL whereas a “Lemmy” sign would’ve been much better. Even with corrupted pixels, it would still be distinctly recognizable.
This is not true: QR codes have built in error correction, they are designed specifically for the purpose of working when many pixels are distorted
you need to configure it to “max” for the most protection and most size
QR codes have error corrections up to about ~30% error tolerance when using the highest error correction level
It’s worth noting the QR code from earlier went to this site and was not lemmy related
Ah, my mistake! I misunderstood when the post said “this site” I took it to mean “this site we are on” and I never bothered to check it.
I’ll edit my comment
Ah I can see that. I just wrote “this site” to keep the mystery of what the QR codes to a little alive like how it’s be if you scanned it
(there is no evidence so far that would prove this).
i saw a (likely deleted) post saying there were pixels with no user names of those who changed it “aint that sus”
This r/place is a great visualization of the damage done to Reddit. Previous r/places have been much more interesting and vibrant. The current canvas has large portions covered with boring flags and overall there’s just less going on, much less depth and variety. A great confirmation that Reddit has indeed changed, and a great visualization of how it has changed.
The fact that they’re bringing this back in a month other than April is pathetic. I don’t know what species is worse. You don’t see them trying to fuck each other over for a goddamn percentage.
the problem is that the r/place this out of season will be known only by its meta because very few are posting for non meta reasons
Even if the designs are less fancy than before it is still very active.
Yep, which is all Spez and the other higher ups care about. Stop using reddit.
its bot traffic, copy+pastes, or meta commentary
its debatable if r/place is used by humans in any notable capacity.
This fuckin’ guy is gonna burn it all down and somehow walk away with more money than I could earn in several lifetimes. There’s something intrinsically wrong with a system that so egregiously rewards such gross incompetence.
Where is the incompetence? His competency is dependent on making money for a specific few.
It has nothing to do with the outcome of the site, beyond how that outcome influences said making of money.
If the shareholders cash out happy and the site dies out, he did his job, regardless of whether or not you think that’s fair.
Yes, it sucks for the rest of us who liked Reddit. I am one of those people.
Saying this guy is incompetent just because his interests go against the interests of people who use Reddit is ludicrous.
The interests are in conflict, it sucks. That’s it. We have Lemmy. Get over it.
You’re basically saying he’s not incompetent if he finds a new bag holder.
I disagree. I think spez is trying his best. He isn’t simply trying to find a bag holder to dump reddit on.
please elaborate, most here disagree so mutch that they cannot see your perspective
Incompetent at not being a piece of shit
causing users to suggest that Reddit admins are interfering with their art (there is no evidence so far that would prove this)
If you watch the time lapse, you’ll see that the guillotine was wiped away in an instant, which would either require mass coordination or admin privileges. There’s also the fact that it was removed in chunks, not pixel-by-pixel. Also, it was proven last year that one of the mods didn’t have a cooldown.
Reddit has been thrown into chaos because the company began charging for access to its API
No, it’s because they began charging an amount that isn’t affordable to third-party app developers and with very little notice. They also lied about being willing to work with developers and they made false allegations against Apollo’s developer.
In some of the screenshots, it’s clear that a brush is being used by the uniform distribution of pixels in the same size/pattern in multiple areas.
I don’t really think the admins are concerned about concealing their actions anymore. They’re just trying to cashout on a sinking dumpster fire while its valuation plummets.
Why do people even participate after all this mess
Because they’re hopeful they can save the site through activism. What they forget is that they are not protesting a government, they are trying to stop a corporate entity from fulfilling it’s legal obligations to make money for it’s investors.
I think using the site you’re protesting against is peak slacktivism
There’s nothing wrong with Reddit trying to be profitable. It should be profitable.
Apollo and Reddit Is Fun even had large subscriber bases willing to pay up to support our usage.
Reddit leadership is just really shitty. That is just the reality. Even if they wanted to be profitable, Spez simply doesn’t know how to get there.
there is a problem, in the same way your cat pees on your rug to mark territory, its instincts for marking are too strong and its higher reasoning is too weak to stop it. its when capitalism being an instinct, takes over higher brain functions is it a problem.
No, community-owned efforts like Lemmy and Debian exist precisely because neither corporations nor governments are fit to run them.
Hey spez, screw you!
“API change is not a big deal, look how many people logged in last week”
How many?
Probably at least, like, twelve or more
That gets an upvote.
You mention downvotes? Believe it or not, reduce. You mention upvotes, also reduce. We have the best comments in the world because of reduce.
It worked!
And yet this is probably good for reddit. They live on amount of engagement and you dummies just fell for it.
Exactly, I’m fully expecting the admins to wipe out any undesirable things off the wall the second the timer runs out. And that’s the wall they’ll show to their investors.
You can’t spend engagement. It’s not real.
But you can convince advertisers to give you money based on how much engagement the site gets and therefore how much engagement their ads are likely to get. ~Cherri
The admins can push whatever stupid numbers they want. People were not somehow tricked into giving the site a second wind, by turning this desperate exploitation of a beloved icon into a vulgar billboard against the fucker selling us out, or by dumping all the soon-to-be-stolen awards onto comments asking what the fuck he thinks he’s doing.
The nature of bad faith is that there is no right answer. Any response, including no response, will be twisted around and treated as victory, because the person being condemned for making shit up gets to make shit up. There are no circumstances where they don’t go “Ah-HA!” There is no point scolding people for not doing the thing that would stop this, because that thing does not exist. People who care what’s real just have to deal with it and act in spite of it.
Reddit has the worst per-user stats of any social media site, by an order of magnitude… and the bump in engagement here is bluntly saying it’s time to leave.
Bizarre that people are on Reddit complaining about reddit still
I also think this whole place thing being back up is a test from Reddit how engaging the community is in their “Quarterly Reports!”. Many people and old time users left Reddit stating that losing the active or dedicated users will be enough for them to go down and Reddit needs data to support the opposite. In Reddit’s eye if “F u/spez” generates clicks and ad revenues, why not letting it loose!
Louis Rosmann put it nice on his series of videos about the topic. And unfortunately Reddit will still have that portion of users that are so invested in it, that will play along with whatever Reddit cooks for them.
For me, the simple fact that Reddit thinks they “own” the data that millions of people have put the time into making, was an enough reason to stop participating in anything there. Including upvoting and downvoting.
Half the problem is, that’s where people are.
The network effect exists because adoption is a feature you can’t design.
EDIT: I attached this to the wrong comment
if you don’t want the drama, you can always block the reddit communities from your account, be a pioneer for the new culture of Lemmy, ping me if you found something cool. we are constantly getting new people who aren’t over our “shared Ex” yet. be patient with them.
Sounded more like they were talking about the users that are still on Reddit, not the ones that came here but talk about Reddit.
I posted to the wrong comment, didnt I?
Worth noting, this was posted to a technology community, not a reddit community, so you can’t escape it entirely.
!technology@lemmy.world is a place for news and drama, it can be blacklisted too, i would love to see the community renamed to reflect that
THAT WILL TEACH HIM!
Surely.
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Oh come on, Germany is a beautiful, civilized country.
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In order to make something good you must have a clear vision of how it truly is. That means recognising it’s negatives but also allowing space to recognise it’s positives to. Germany is not entirely good or bad. Even if you feel it is largely or overall bad, if you want it to be good you must celebrate and support where it is good to nurture those positives.
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I went to Germany years ago, and I loved the great individual freedom to drink beer… Drank so much I don’t remember much else about the trip though lol 😂
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Huh? 😂
How can you not be patriotic when you have so good doner kebab?! I live kinda near Köln and there is a kebab place near the Belgian quartier, mem-et, and I regularly think about it because it’s so good.
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Freiersohn then
There’s something weird about “protesting” a site by continuing to use their site. Hopefully it’s just bot traffic flooding /r/place rather than real people coordinating in real time.
Exactly. The real protest would have been to totally ignore r/place. Could you imagine a blank canvas. That would have been epic.
Protest about reddit using reddit is not a great idea
somebody should really build a Fediverse version of r/place so anybody from any ActivityPub-powered site can join in and place a pixel every 5 minutes
You might have something here. Development would be easy but maintenance and moderation is another beast.
which is why it should be limited as a yearly event similar to r/place right now.
It’s not federated but there is pixelcanvas.io, which is like r/place but infinite and not controlled by Reddit
Also an app called Everyone Draw
Ya all weird as heck. People who decided to not leave reddit because that’s still their main content provided try to vent their anger in any possible way. And while there’s no thing like bad PR, according to the saying, the truth is that media coverage is underlining bad management from reddit side and how uncooperative it’s users became (they literally fight administration at this point ). So while reddit may have gained numbers in interaction, I don’t believe potential investors can simply omit all these news and quite evident burning of company.
I’d say if they ain’t gonna leave, doing this is the second best thing. Keep it up, redditors, keep it up.
