• Solaris1789@jlai.lu
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    We can only hope normal people start using firefox again and ditch the piece of cold garbage that is chrome/ium. Though i doubt most people nowadays will even think about switching browsers (like how windows still has like 75+% of market share despite its quality freefalling since win10 and the most user hostile stuff being added)

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      If experience gets bad enough then people will look for alternatives. IE was something like 90% of the market share at one point and then it lost it fairly rapidly.

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      Not sure if software enshittification really makes people switch. I wish they would but I’m not convinced. I’d say the windows freefall started after windows 7:

      8 was universally agreed to be complete horseshit because they were trying to make it work for both, touch and keyboard/mouse, which obviously failed.

      10 felt like a sponsored-by-ads freemium cheap spyware, adding even more inconsistencies with these different system settings windows, adding cortana which literally not a single person on earth wanted to use but was hard to disable/remove and embracing the microsoft store which is the most cursed shithole of all (including google playstore which is already bad enough).

      11 Is just like 10 but takes away essential settings, making every professional users workflow 40% slower for no reason.

      Win7 also had issues, but it felt much more usable for professional use. Also much less bloated with bullcrap nobody ever asked for (preinstalled candycrush anyone?). So for me that was clearly peak windows. Obviously, every half-decent linux distro was at least as good, many were better even from a pure users perspective. After that, linux desktops got better and windows got worse. Nowadays its no competition if you ask me. But still, few people swicht from the pre-installed OS…

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      The “we’ll figure it out later” mentality that plagued the entirety of the ad-supported internet during the last two decades is finally coming to it’s natural conclusion. Some companies have decided to tackle the issue by progressively getting away from ads (See X/Twitter, YouTube Premium), others are trying to hold for dear life and doing one last, giant push to try to make it work (Google, also YouTube somewhat). The next few years will decide what the future of the web looks like

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      My theory is that they have been “inbreeding” too much by only hiring friends and family. This creates a cesspool instead of a talent pool. Try getting into one of these companies without an in… It’s not easy.

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    what’s beyond me is that 95% of people won’t care. We will of course but most will just put up with it.

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      Nah. Those who installed adblocker did this for a reason. They’ll put up with it for maybe a week at max before they get annoyed by the full-Screen hot singles in their area in tab 69 that plays music.

      I switched to apple years ago because I wanted to know why I hate it so much and use Firefox ever since.

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    The sad part is that this meme is 100% wishful thinking. The reality is that most people will just be complicit and too lazy to enact any form of protest. We’re doomed unless we organize.

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      I jumped ship as soon as I heard the first rumor. Which is unusual for me but still. I’m in the mood for it. Left twitter (8k followers) for Mastodon, left Reddit (300,000 karma) for lemmy. It’s time.

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      The sadder part is that most people don’t even use/know about adblockers in the first place

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    Everytime I see someone I know using chrome and getting an ad (because most adblockers in chrome are useless), I try to nudge them to the furry browser

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      And spy-ware + Trackers + system data info + location + how many hours used + what websites you use :/ Firefox is the best!! F Chrome users ew

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    Unfortunately is not that simple, now Google is pushing a new standard web environment called WEI and all browsers will be affected with it. Is not just a matter of free choice.

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      We’ll see if sites really start forcing this standard, could just turn into a situation where you use Chrome as an app to access specific sites that force it and Firefox for everything else.

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          The FOSS community is big enough that most things will have a non fucked foss counterpart if that happens. Of course hopefully that doesn’t need to happen

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            If and only “if” this split occur. Unfortunately only few tech conscious people about the importance of free internet as a whole and privacy will adhere to it. Will not be a big movement to harm the core of the big tech.

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              My perspective on this is that it’s about sustainability as opposed to trying to compete with big tech in a zero sum game. For example, Mastodon or Lemmy aren’t able to compete with commercial platforms in terms of users, but that doesn’t mean they’re not viable communities. I can see a future where there’s a niche open internet that exists independently of the commercial one and I think that would be fine. As long as there are enough people to do development on platforms and browsers and to produce content, that’s all that really matters. In fact, a split might even be better because then we wouldn’t have companies interfering with how the network operates.

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        Banks will force it pretty quickly. I can’t bank on a rooted android already.

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    Is this something that will only affect Google Chrome or other chromium based browsers immediately? I’m on Firefox already but the change isn’t so appealing to friends who are on Google Chrome.

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      The concern with WEI proposal is that it’s going to be server enforced. Basically, the server will require browsers to be signed and will refuse to talk to ones it doesn’t recognize the signature for. This will mean that you’ll only be able to talk to such servers using a browser that’s approved by whoever distributes these certs. This is a great explanation of the whole scheme.

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      Pretty much, and I think this highlights just how important it is to have at least two independently developed browser engines. If Chromium becomes the only game in town that would effectively let Google, which makes most of its revenue from ads, decide how we access the internet. That would be an absolutely terrible scenario to be in.