• thoro@lemmy.ml
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        I had to check too cause “americabadamirite” complaints are basically peak Reddit since the Digg migration and shortly after.

        Before then, I feel like I remember it being a lot less defensive about people daring to…criticize America

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      To me this meme comes across as fascist , rascist and prejudiced.

      You have become 200%, what you supposedly hate so much.

      " Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster… for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you."

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          Lol what? You talking about the bong video you’re replying

          Of course not. That’s just actually a funny bong video. Lol. I reacted to the meme

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          No, no… Wait… He has a point.

          Little did I know that ripping a bong hit was the same as staring into the abyss. The fascism of it all… I’ve been such a fool.

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        Authoritarianism leftists are tankies. To be fair they are pretty much the same as authoritarianism rightists. They both want to abolish liberalism before they duke it out over economic models.

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          You are right about the definition of tankies. People forget that views can be shared by varied groups. Pretty much liberals and to their left would agree with this message.

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            ? Liberalism is an updown issue not a left right issue? You can be economically right and be a liberal…

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              I struggled to understand at first. You are talking in terms from the messed up 2 axis political compass thing? Ideologies have positions in simplified lists and axis, but you have to be careful of oversimplifying them. That system to me is propaganda to deligitimise groups like my own(anarcho-pacifist). The opposite of totalitarianism is anarchism. Libertarianism got co-opted, it used to be anarchism and is now the totalitarianism of capitalism with the smallest government.

              Liberals if you want to put it that way, are pro-capitalist, relatively socially progressive. I think the standard left/right thing messes up the tankie position, which makes this quadrant thing even more awkward.

              Sorry for the messy answer. Feeling a bit tired and wanted to answer you

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                I think you captured what I was saying pretty well. On a 4 axis model up is totalitarian, down is anarchism, left is economic left and right is economic right. And I agree it’s over simplified still but I hate looking at the world as just left and right since it leads to the big bad.

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                  I think that system is great for helping people to think more and discuss more about it, but calling the down axis in the common political compass Libertarianism, which now means something else is the part that bothers me.

                  To an anarchist, the standard left/right axis is really status quo(authoritarianism). When you merge both axis into what I just described you see it fits in many ways scarily cleanly, and the other things don’t really matter as much, but are still important(economic: capitalism vs socialism). In other words tankies and fascists score high right wing, and liberals are more progressive etc. I think tankies are just socialists co-opted by oligarchs the same way that Hitler co-opted a bunch of socialists.

                  Politics is confusing, and our oligarchs intentionally make it more-so.

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    OH MY SOY!!! I haven’t laughed this hard since the last time I watched Stephen Colbert while eating a tube of toothpaste!