• pivot_root@lemmy.world
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    If he demanded it was as safe as possible, he wouldn’t have refused to add lidar or radar capabilities.

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      I thought the “needs lidar” debate was settled years ago? Lidar cannot read signs. It is also prohibitively expensive to put in vehicles. If you’re going to drive with a neural network you need as much training data as possible, which means as many sensors in as many vehicles as possible.

      If your cameras detect something the lidar does not, you trust the cameras, every time. Lidar can very easily misinterperet the world. It works great for simple robots who need to know where walls are and don’t need to specifially identify animals, people, obstacles, speed bumps, construction zones, etc.

      Theres also the simple fact that humans can drive just fine without having evolved a lidar sensor.

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        If your cameras detect something the lidar does not, you trust the cameras

        Yes, but if the lidar sees something the cameras doesn’t, you trust the lidar.

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          Actually, no you don’t. Lidar cannot dentify object’s specifically. Tesla does use lidar in their testing/prototype vehicles and they have to find any instances manually where these systems don’t agree. It always falls back to cameras.

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          1 year ago

          TSLA doesn’t even pay dividends. Appreciate you pointing yourself out as horribly misinformed.

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        1 year ago

        Exactly. Also lidar is important in instances where you need millimeter precision. Its useful for calibrating camera systems in self driving cars but in order to drive safely you don’t need that level of detail about the world around the car. It makes no difference if a car or pedestrian is 72 or 73 inches away.