Recently mullvad stopped the port forwarding, are there some other trustworthy VPN to do Torrenting out there or others solutions to do torrenting with Mullvad?
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I’m deeply sorry, but I had to mention i2p torrenting, it might become more popular soon.
Sidenote: I2P torrenting doesn’t require a vpn or port forwarding, and is indeed more private.
Can you elaborate on this, it’s the first time I’ve heard of I2P torrenting
It seems to be a special torrent client that work similar to tor (guessing with less hops though) and bounce encrypted traffic on special “i2p routers”. Not sure if they do the onion style encryption of thor.
Thanks, I’ll be looking it up on my free time.
I2P torrenting with a seedbox is the undeniable future. It will probably just take a year or so to reach critical mass. It’s slow now because a lack of mass.
The main relevant difference between I2P and Tor is that Tor runs on donated bandwidth and therefore can’t scale: the more it is used, the more volunteers are needed to donate bandwidth. Which is why they aren’t happy with people torrenting.
I2P is P2P so the more people use it, the faster it becomes. Which is why they really want people to use it for torrenting.
Why do you see i2p torrenting becoming popular? I think it’s probably too much hassle for 99% of people.
Once all major bittorrent clients support it with integrated I2P routers, the hassle is literally just checking a box, which will be on by default in many clients.
Remember when trackers were being taken down and we all switched to DHT/magnet? Same will happen if they go after VPN’s, we will switch to I2P. And it seems they are going after VPN’s.
AirVPN is a good one
This is what I switched to after Mullvad removed their port forwarding. It works fine so far. Interestingly, the Android app reminds me of a Geocities page circa 2002.
But arent they removing port forwarding soon?
No they’ve committed to keeping it. But they have an issue with port availability so they’ll probably need to move to a per server allocation eventually. Recently they reduced the allocation per user down to 5 from 20 though just to delay when they run out.
Thx thats helpfull
ProtonVPN. It’s an organization built around principles of privacy, so I use them a lot and support them as much as I can. I have their VPN on a docker container with gluetun.
Plus a great mail provider to escape the Gmail.
I like proton mail and use it for my daily, but I’ve heard rumors it’s a fed honeypot. Seems like a good choice to escape corporate big data collection, but probably want to avoid it for anything of questionable legality.
Yea great to get away from those damn adverts. I often wonder with enough pressure would they comply with a government or as you said are they a honey pot themselves. In europe Encrochat was a good example of it happening.
+1 for Proton. I also have their mail for all my domains. Works wonders and feels trustworthy, for whatever that’s worth.
Yeah I’m moving to Proton when my current Surfshark membership expires.
Air VPN as it supports port forwarding. PF isn’t as important if you only download popular new content, as there are usually enough connectable seeders on popular torrents. But PF is absolutely crucial if you want to be able to obtain old or rare content or if you use private trackers.
I’m honestly baffled that so many are still recommending Mullvad after they made such a stunning reversal of their friendly policy towards p2p by removing port forwarding. I wouldn’t trust them as far as I can throw them.
Switched to AirVPN. It’s pretty good so far. Not great for general browsing because you get a ton of captchas.
Dude it’s insane how many people here A) don’t even know what port forwarding is and B) tell others port forwarding isn’t needed at all.
Where does all this confusion come from?
Their decision to block port forwarding was unfortunate, but understandable. I’ve been using it for the past year and when I first started, I rarely ran into any issues with being blacklisted. Now it’s a nearly daily occurrence. I don’t know how true it is, but Mullvad claimed that much of the activity leading to blocked IPs came from activity related to port forwarding. If that’s true, then I’d say the decision is good. Like others have said, torrenting is still possible without port forwarding, but it’s also true that rarer content and private trackers become difficult. Ultimately there was no perfect solution here.
I used to use Air but the speeds were absolutely abysmal. 2-3 MB/s vs 50-55 MB/s on mullvad. Has the situation improved at all?
Private Internet Access allows port forwarding
I’ve had PIA for years. It has always worked so I haven’t had a reason to try anything else. I think its like $2/mo paid yearly.
You have to use a server outside the US for port forwarding though. Canada works.
i believe windscribe is good, but i havent done enough research to be confidwnt
Mullvad vpn is great. They offer different ways to pay so you can maintain privacy and you only pay for the amount of time you want.
OP specifically mentioned moving away from Mullvad.
yeah, I thought I deleted my reply already. My bad
It’s weird, for me i can still read your reply etc but it has deleted next to it
Interesting, maybe it is a bug. I’m still new to lemmy, so there is a lot I need to learn.
still using mullvad and haven’t had any issues.
they don’t have port-forwarding, how can be that not an issue for torrenting?
port forwarding isn’t exactly necessary, but it does help with connectivity.
Try cryptostorm.is.
Why is everyone anti NordVPN again?
Honesty the reason I never considered them is because they advertised so hard on YouTube and Podcasts that they annoyed me so I never considered them.
Jesus, felt like there was a time when halfway through any YouTube video it became “and I learned about this browsing the internet safely with Nord VPN…”
I use NordVPN to play some Raid Shadow Legends while I cook up a delicious meal from HelloFresh.
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Because they’re also a big corp, pop one.
Weeellll that and the data breaches, of course.
They don’t offer port forwarding so it’s kinda pointless to use for torrenting.
Not if you use it with a transmission-openvpn container…
Although reading another comment makes me think maybe I don’t understand this as well as I think I do…….
At least in the context of the question:
- they don’t have port forwarding. 2) their speeds for torrenting are crap.
I’m still using Mullvad and QBittorrent and I torrent my bloody black guts out with no noticed degradation in speeds since their announcement that they were no longer supporting port forwarding. It’s anecdotal, I know, but so far I haven’t noticed any problems.
I’m new to vpns, what’s port forwarding?
Port forwarding allows for a direct connection from one client to another. Effectively when a VPN let’s you port forward if you go to the external IP address they assign + the port they assigned they will be able to directly connect to a port that a program/service is listening on.
Torrent sites are only telling your client who to connect to via the tracker, your client still needs to be able to connect to them. You can still download without this but it is generally slower (may be going through a relay) and you cannot seed torrents except for anyone that can directly connect to you on whatever VPN you are on.
*Likely some mistakes above. Keep me honest denizens of the web.
Thank you!
It forwarding opens a port direct to your system from the vpn ip.
So if your internet address at your router to your ISP is 1.1.1.1(which NATs it to your PC address on your lan) and the vpn exit address is say 10.10.10.10
Then when you port forward a port, say 443 (you wouldnt) then any request to 10.10.10:443 would then go to 1.1.1.1:443 and then to your pc on your lan.
In short it allows a direct connection through the vpn
Edit
Technically that’s slightly incorrect,
packet goes on 10.10.10.10:443 but it goes to the PC directly through the vpn tunnel. The port it goes through the 1.1.1.1 router to the PC on could be anything, it won’t necessarily be 443. It will be whatever the vpn is set to use
Ah, ty!
I feel like its kinda late to learn now lol. Jokes aside, but its hard to find a good vpn with port forwarding nowdays, I dont know is there any at all. Im not expert, but forwarding will help a lot with seeding and thats the point of torrenting
Edit: you can still use torrents without port forwarding, it wont mess up your download speed
That… did not answer my question at all.
Im sorry about that. Good thing we have experts here 😉
For what it’s worth, I’ve been using the free tier of hide.me coming from 2 years of surfshark. The speeds aren’t great. But it’s $0 and it works 🤷♂️
I’m still able to seed using Mullvad ¯_(ツ)_/¯
I torrent all my Linux distros with Mullvad. No problems here.
