Just wondering tried to upvote and comment on beehaw kept gettin errors
I wholeheartedly support NOT engaging with beehaw. Any instance that supports defederation and censorship is an instance NOT worth supporting. The fediverse is supposed to be a refuge of free speech (within reason of course.) If an instance chose to defederate and isolate itself, it deserves the very same isolation it so wanted.
Tldr; beehaw wants to isolate, then give it the isolation it wants.
I personally blocked all beehaw communities - not out of spite or anything, but I kept accidentally commenting on beehaw threads before realising I’m speaking to nobody.
If beehaw has their own reasons for being closed-off, that’s their choice, but I wouldn’t engage with them in that case.
Personally, I’m thankful that I got into the fediverse a short time after it defederated. I haven’t missed much and I haven’t interacted with it much.
You are right of course. Beehaw is an independent instance and as such reserves the right to moderate their space as they like.
If people really want to access it, they can always just create a separate account on it.
Though reading through their code of conduct here:
https://beehaw.org/post/1042456
It suggests a very controlling and stifling environment that’s not really conducive to open online discussion. And maybe it was intended that way, as a safe space for the “softer” more sensitive people in the internet. And that is respectable.
But it has the potential to be an echo-chamber, the same as what Tildes is. It’s a too sheltered experience that is more suited to private group chats rather than a publicly accessible forum.
In short, bothering with it, especially if you are not this type of target audience is ultimately a drain in energy and an exercise in futility.
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Yeah. They need to come back too. Most of the trolls went back to being reddiots. The participation there has been on a hard downward trend since defederating. There are less than 500 per day on there now most days.
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They want to build a walled garden. They’ve defederated 400+ instances. This extreme desire for control is what made me leave beehaw for lemmy.world and I’m not looking back.
I don’t understand why they’re in the fediverse at all. At this point they could just be a phpBB forum.
having the same interface is still cool and as a ml user i can still see their content
I still have my original account there, and check up every so often when I run out of things to read here. I’ve noticed there is seemingly always some new personal thoughts thread pinned by the admins there. Admins treat pinned threads almost like blogposts that are important enough to warrant everybody reading. It’s very strange.
I’m on here and on there. I like both for different reasons.
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They want to be Reddit. Why would you want to interact with that?
Yes, because they suck and are incompetent
If you want to check what instances are federated or unfederated, scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page on desktop and click on Instances. It will show a list.