• Shere_Khan@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      2 years ago

      That’s dumb. If you are supposed to pay for something and you just take it instead, you stole it. You can argue word meanings and technicallies all day, but it’s a lot easier to just be real about what we are doing here.

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        It is copyright violation, not stealing. Yes, it is damaging to the content creator, under current economic and law structure, but it is not stealing. If you burn a house belonging to the content creator, you do not call it stealing, just because it is damaging to them. So, why do you insist on calling it stealing here?

        On a side note, one can incision a society where there is no copyright. In that society it would be completely lawful and “non-damaging” to copy things. Copyright is an artificial construct that we choose to have, but it does not mean that we can not rejected (we, as in the whole society, not individual)

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        Theft is the taking of another person’s personal property with the intent of depriving that person of the use of their property.

        If you stole a car, you physically took something away from somebody. If you download a car, the original is still there - you’re just making an exact copy for yourself for free. Same if you swiped a candy bar at a gas station - you’re depriving that gas station the use of their property, which is to sell and make money. If you download a candy bar, nothing is taken and the gas station can still sell the original.

        So let’s be crystal clear here: what’s happening is not theft, because nothing was taken and the owner is not deprived of the use of their property. Can you argue that you’re getting something for free when you shouldn’t? Yes, and that’s more in line of denying profits rather than actual theft.

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      2 years ago

      Nicholas Cage heavily breathing about all the people simultaneously stealing the declaration of independence

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          Jokes on you I just downloaded those pictures and if you want them back you must give me 1 million upvotes

          • 001100 010010@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            Noooo, you can’t just steal MY Declaration of Lemmy Independence that I stole downloaded. Hello, Lemmy Police? This fucking Lemming just stole MY document!

            Blast! My evil plans are foiled!

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    I don’t know man. Where I live the law says it’s not stealing. It says: legal to share, illegal to share for profit. On other words: legal to share, illegal to sell.

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    It’s a lot earlier when you realize that everyone else is going to treat this world like a smash and grab regardless of what you do. These companies included especially.

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    Or you could just not give a flying fuck about the moral and ethical aspects and go on with your life.

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    “But I want to support those little poor billionares, who’s going to look after their livehood and ethical buisness?”

    The more you pay for big brands, whatever product you buy, be it clothes, food, or any form of knowledge, the more you drive up the sales, the more you reinforce the idea that money is a tool only a few chosen are rightful of having, just like the riches and the labour of the many. (Buy from local producers as much as you can)

    Ironically enough, pirating makes people more aware of what it consumes, what labor is and mostly to get to support creators directly for what they put out. You can’t steal from corporations, you only get back the unpaid /underpaid labour of many. Quality content and effort should be rewarded, so please support/help your creators in any way you can.

    • azerial@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I’m so split on this as a person who has dated (for a long while) a guy who works in wardrobe on film and TV sets. Yes i still pirate, but i also buy the things i love and appreciate. I know those sales go into his pay and unfortunately those billionaires pockets.

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    I live on a small island and the closest cinema or shop where I could buy anything is 3 hours away.

    Piracy is more comfortable for me.

    then why don’t you subscribe to streaming services?

    Well, my friend: I don’t like to be locked out of other regions.

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    I am proud of pirating and I don’t get why people who also pirate would have a problem with that. Like you think it’s wrong and do it anyway, but think people who don’t think it’s wrong are cringe somehow? What’s wrong with standing up for what you believe in?