• ickplant@lemmy.world
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    I’m concerned but I don’t know what I can do about that other than make sure my whole family is vaccinated.

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    I mean anti-vaxxers believe vaccines to be essentially poisen, hence why they are opposed to them. They believe there are other remedies to cure diseases.

    So to answer your question, yes they are worried but woefully misinformed.

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      In a way, they’re right that there’s an alternative. But the alternative is death, and most sane people wouldn’t prefer that.

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    If you think there are no anti-vaxxers in your country, you’ve got another thing coming.

    Many of the anti-vax groups at the center of outbreaks are members of religious minorities. Mena ites, Amish, and Hasidic Jews. The reason it’s become more of a problem is that some upper middle class families have joined in and created more unvaccinated pockets in communities in the last decade.

    For decades the conservative movement in the US has fostered a distrust in government and it has permeated just about everything.

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    Americans are not a monolith. Tons of Americans are concerned. Tons are not. Also many Americans have lives where these issues the news typically stirs up don’t really actually impact their daily lives. Others are dramatically affected. It really depends on location and status, among so many factors.

    Various news and online channels might have you thinking all Americans are basically the same and experiencing things the same, but they are definitely not.

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    Christ man, we’re screaming about it and have been for decades. Nobody will listen.

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        Yes but that was so he could absolve us of our diseases! Maybe. I’m not so knowledgeable of Christianity, I’m Republican.

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    Probably the same reason Europeans drink and smoke too tbh

    The risk seems worth it. Either because the see it as lower than it is or that the loss of life less valuable than others see it.

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    Science showed things like climate change, which was hurting the bottom line of giant corporations who donate huge amounts of money to Republicans, so Republicans convinced their base that science is against God, and that it’s all part of the evil woke liberals thing. So now anything that comes from science, including vaccines, is tainted.

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      As an example of the deeply ingrained disinformation and brainwashing, see a comment I made earlier today regarding Liberals continuously blaming progressives for Trumps win — without evidence — instead of the statistically verifiable, and multi-decade ratfuckery by the fascists… not to mention the ~100 million American adults who refuse to vote in every election (aka. the 100 million adults Liberals continuously fail to motivate), or the ~80 million voters who support fascist authoritarianism, or the corporations who have corrupted the political class and propagandized the entire population for 5 decades, or the political class who continuously serve the oligarchy.

      War is peace! Freedom is slavery! The political class, bought and paid for by fascists, will save us from fascism!

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    1. The people who aren’t idiots are already vaccinated so they’ll be fine.

    2. The people who are idiots think they are safer without vaccination. They are the ones who will die (or their children) but they aren’t aware of it.

    3. The people who can’t get vaccinated but aren’t idiots are kind of just screwed but this is an incredibly small minority of the population.

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      This is not true. Vaccination is not an all or nothing thing. Vaccines don’t work the same for everyone. Many vaccinated individuals rely on herd immunity for full protection. That is why vaccination of as many people as possible is so important. Vaccinated individuals will die due to weakened herd immunity.

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      People who are vaccinated are 100% going to die from mutated versions of diseases their idiot neighbours have been incubating.

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    Because

    1. taxing the rich is a partisan stance

    2. people are unaware that the government would spend less on singlepayer than it spends currently dealing with middlemen

    3. a non-negligible number of people don’t believe in micro-organisms, nutrition, or cancer as it is understood by doctors

    TLDR: decentralized education with zero funding makes a whole country of dumb assholes.

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      Congressional democrats have no interest in actual taxing the ultra wealthy either. It’s bipartisan to not “bite the hand that feeds.”

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        Well the last tax bill was written and passed by the GOP in 2017, it got 0 DNC votes in the house the first time and it passed but with 3 congressional violations which would otherwise protect budget bills from filibuster at the time and so it was filibustered, then it passed the house again with changes and then the Senate 51 to 48 with 0 DNC votes and this time was immune to filibuster.

        Now they get to write the new bill again this time because it is about to expire.

        We DO have an idea of the DNC tax plan from the Kamala Harris Campaign promising to tax unrealized gains over 1M and to remove the upper limit that rich people pay to Socia Security Taxes, while also keeping or lowering taxes on anybody who made less than 400k.

        We also know that the previous Biden Administration supported the IRS and gave them every resource and incentive to Audit the Rich, which they absolutely did.

        So I guess if you ignore literally everything that happens then you can make that claim. Take your pick: ignorant or liar, which do you claim to be?

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          It’s all posturing. When they actually have the power to fully pass tax bills they don’t. It’s only when they know it won’t become law that they pander to their voters. It’s all a show.

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            They have not had that power. We refuse to give them that power.

            With that power we have every reason to believe they would tax the rich. Any incentive to stand against this policy would be on the campaign trail: and they don’t use the card even then.

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      Sad thing is that I don’t think gun restrictions would work cos criminals get their guns unlawfully

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          Is there another country that illegalised guns when there were already a massive amount in the country? I’m unaware of one but happy to be enlightened if there is.

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        You can’t make concentrated firearms to smuggle into a country. They’re bulky, expensive and made from metal. They’re not heroin. Also, most of those illegal guns were legally purchased in another US state with looser laws, not smuggled in from another country.

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        Probably something like 99.9% of guns or more are legal guns when they’re manufactured. If there were fewer legal guns produced and out there, there’d be fewer illegal guns for criminals, would-be or otherwise, to get their hands on.

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        Which other countries with stricter gun restrictions than the US regularly have school shootings?

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          Yes, I agree publicised school shootings are generally in the US. Did any of the other countries go from firearms being lawful to unlawful over the last few decades? The US has a huge amount already there, and that’s a significant difference.

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          I don’t feel countries can be compared like that. School shootings are often carried out by juveniles who can’t lawfully get a gun. They’re committing mass murder showing they’re not law abiding. Realistically there’s so many guns in America that even making guns illegal wouldn’t prevent guns in the country.

          Instead there’s other things that could help, such as training professionals to identify perpetrators and warning signs they’re going to attack. PSAs could be done so people can ID people around them.

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            ^OP, here’s the answer to your question

            (Intellectual laziness and uncritical acceptance of propaganda).

            School shootings are often carried out by juveniles who can’t lawfully get a gun.

            Cut this crap, this isn’t reddit. Most kids them get the guns from a relative or friend who obtained it legally and adequate storage laws reduce both suicides and homicides in kids. BTW, guns kill more kids now than cancer or car accidents, but only in the US. Your take is the best example of americans being unconcerned about preventable deaths.

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              Please let me reassure you, thats inaccurate. I do voluntary work in DA, work in the supportive sector and have personally funded related uni courses (DA being linked to crime perpetration, incels, firearm misuse etc). I’ve done considerable research into academic articles on lone actor grievance fuelled violence. I do far more than the average person does, I just have a different perspective… partly due to the academic research I’ve read.

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                Please let me reassure you, thats inaccurate…

                What’s inaccurate? I made like 5 statements.

                1. Guns kill more school-aged kids than motor vehicle accidents and cancer (i had to recreate the stats from the CDC wonder database myself excluding anybody over 18 because schmucks kept on complaining about the NEJM article including 19-year-olds, which apparently invalidated the data, except that it didn’t)

                2. Gun suicides are mostly committed using firearms from friends and relatives.

                3. If you look at UK’s homicide stats and the US’s (BJS) homicide stats you can tell that actually the homicide rate difference is driven by firearms.

                4. It’s a fact that it is much harder to kill someone including oneself without a gun.

                5. States that have gun storage laws have lower firearm mortality in kids.

                6. Blablabla on your trust me because I did some research. I’m in academia and published half a dozen (non-gun) epidemiology papers to date as a side hustle so I do know how to use the CDC databases. I’ve been forced to dive into the gun violence data because I’m really fed up with all the disinformation.

                7. What I have seen no supportive evidence for to date is “that training professionals to identify perpetrators” (“hardening schools?”) has any effect on school shootings.

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                Now let’s see your papers.

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            Sure, the shootings won’t stop the day legislation changes. But it prevents more guns from entering the US, making it more difficult to get one, even illegally.

            I get that some people in the states need guns. Some communities have a real danger from bears etc. But those people can get a license to own a gun, the way it works in most countries.